Planning a Khalifate campaign

[Captain_Wrathbow]

@Knightmare: Could be a possibility for the storyline.

I'm currently hunting around for Khalifate lore, but I'm finding that so far, there really hasn't been much defined yet... for the most part, Khalifate history and integration into Wesnoth is pretty much wide open for development.

That's good; it makes it easier to avoid contradicting established canon.

And I'm still hoping for someone to take the writing position... of course, ideas are still welcome meanwhile.
Perhaps I'll just try to get started on my own... and someone may decide to polish up my writing later on.

[Dixie]

Say, do the Khalifate have background lore written for them so far?

1/2 done.

You should probably try to contact Noy - apparently, he knows what's up with Khalifate lore, so maybe he can inform you or tell you who to ask information to...

[Lord-Knightmare]

After the Fall campaigns sound better:

A group of nomadic humans are struggling to elude capture by the Chaos empire (Note this campaign is prior IftU). One day they are running from a patrol and find refuge in a cave. In the cave the leader of the group tells them to advance further because of the fear of the patrol advancing into the caves. They travel for days or weeks (you can't tell time in underground ) and find a sort of valley or paradise. The valley has a clean water supply and has fertile soil for a civilization to thrive but for the sad is that its already the home of an antisocial/xenophobic elementalist. At first the leader tries diplomacy with the wizard but it doesn't work. So the leader then tries to take it by force and a battle ensues. In the end the elementalist is killed and the humans settle in their new home. After a month or so the humans get attacked by trolls and and a series skirmishes follow resulting in the abandoning of the humans new home. They escape into the desert only to be captured by a Chaos patrol. (The Chaos empire is too evil for me to describe the ending).
Or, if everyone wants a happy ending then: The survivors of group are taken to the Chaos prison harbor (could be Elensefar after the Fall...) where they break out after a few days. They hijack a ship and wonder off to find a new home....THE END

A great campaign for introducing the Khalifate . Or you can use the regular outlaws.

If you like this idea, please ask someone else to do the dialogue, cause I'm going to be busy with the GLE campaigns. I still got one to finish and another 3 waiting to be authored...

A great plot for a campaign,overall... (my viewpoint)

Sounds nice, but how about when they go into the desert they are able to sneak some troops and their leader out of the way of the chaos guy and then they become nomadic desert people and turn into Khalifate units then slowly move to Wesnoth. (Sorry, I don't know much about the Chaos units).

We should probably look around to see where Khalifate history stands.

Post2: how about their "leader" tries to defend them and his son gets away, so they(choas) think they're( Khalifate) dead.

Khalifate history is partially known to me at present. All I know is that their a mostly melee faction lacking in magic-based attacks and they originate from the Great Southern Desert (beyond Aethenwood, I guess). And nobody knows what happens to them after the fall of the third sun. I believe as they're already desert-accustomed so they decide to expand further north and end up in Southern Wesnoth (or former Southern Wesnoth). by the time they arrive, the Chaos Empire is already at the peak of its power so they're hunted down by the Chaos patrols.

@powershot: Chaos units:-
Check the Extended Era wiki page for info: (Chaos)
Play Invasion from the Unknown for more info...

@Captain_Wrathbow: Thanks for considering my plot as a possibility...
And here's a description of the Khalifate
The faction name was changed from Kalifa to Khalifate when it was added to core.

And I managed to make a brief origins note for them:

The Khalifate are the people who live in the southern deserts and have moved north to settle in southern Wesnoth. Little is known of their history or origins, but many explorers who have been south tell that the Khalifate rule a vast empire there.

[powershot]

@Knightmare: Could be a possibility for the storyline.

I'm currently hunting around for Khalifate lore, but I'm finding that so far, there really hasn't been much defined yet... for the most part, Khalifate history and integration into Wesnoth is pretty much wide open for development.

That's good; it makes it easier to avoid contradicting established canon.

And I'm still hoping for someone to take the writing position... of course, ideas are still welcome meanwhile.
Perhaps I'll just try to get started on my own... and someone may decide to polish up my writing later on.

Ok, I got an idea. How about some one creates the outline and some one else creates the story and dialog, and I'll polish it.

[Captain_Wrathbow]

I've decided to go on ahead and start the campaign, and then I'll hopefully get some writing help later. I'm ready to start coding, but... I still don't even have a storyline. Even if I'm not going for perfect, complete writing right now, I at least need some idea of what my plot's going to be.

C'mon guys, I need some help. I don't care whether or not you want to be the official writing-person, I just need some ideas to get me started.

[powershot]

I've decided to go on ahead and start the campaign, and then I'll hopefully get some writing help later. I'm ready to start coding, but... I still don't even have a storyline. Even if I'm not going for perfect, complete writing right now, I at least need some idea of what my plot's going to be.

C'mon guys, I need some help. I don't care whether or not you want to be the official writing-person, I just need some ideas to get me started.

After the Fall campaigns sound better:

A group of nomadic humans are struggling to elude capture by the Chaos empire (Note this campaign is prior IftU). One day they are running from a patrol and find refuge in a cave. In the cave the leader of the group tells them to advance further because of the fear of the patrol advancing into the caves. They travel for days or weeks (you can't tell time in underground ) and find a sort of valley or paradise. The valley has a clean water supply and has fertile soil for a civilization to thrive but for the sad is that its already the home of an antisocial/xenophobic elementalist. At first the leader tries diplomacy with the wizard but it doesn't work. So the leader then tries to take it by force and a battle ensues. In the end the elementalist is killed and the humans settle in their new home. After a month or so the humans get attacked by trolls and and a series skirmishes follow resulting in the abandoning of the humans new home. They escape into the desert only to be captured by a Chaos patrol. (The Chaos empire is too evil for me to describe the ending).
Or, if everyone wants a happy ending then: The survivors of group are taken to the Chaos prison harbor (could be Elensefar after the Fall...) where they break out after a few days. They hijack a ship and wonder off to find a new home....THE END

A great campaign for introducing the Khalifate . Or you can use the regular outlaws.

If you like this idea, please ask someone else to do the dialogue, cause I'm going to be busy with the GLE campaigns. I still got one to finish and another 3 waiting to be authored...

A great plot for a campaign,overall... (my viewpoint)

Ok, I got it, I just need to know whether I should come up with the names or not.

Great idea:What if different people make different parts of the campaign?

[Captain_Wrathbow]

Ok, I got it, I just need to know whether I should come up with the names or not.

Huh?

Great idea:What if different people make different parts of the campaign?

No.

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I'm going to wait a little longer and see if any other ideas get suggested before I decide.

[powershot]

Ok, I got it, I just need to know whether I should come up with the names or not.

Huh?

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I'm going to wait a little longer and see if any other ideas get suggested before I decide.

I mean: should come up with the name of the "leader" and Heroes in the canpaign, or should somebody else.

[Captain_Wrathbow]

Well, I don't even know who any of those people are yet. Are you planning on just making up a couple of Arabic-sounding names that you think would fit with generic Khalifate characters?

I think you're getting ahead of yourself.

What I need right now are good plot ideas. (and a writer ) If you don't have either of those, please don't post in this thread anymore, unless you have something useful to say. (Which you have not, so far.) I feel that it's rapidly becoming unnecessarily cluttered with pointless discussion.

I apologize if this post sounds harsh, but I think it needs to be said.

[powershot]

Well, I don't even know who any of those people are yet. Are you planning on just making up a couple of Arabic-sounding names that you think would fit with generic Khalifate characters?

I think you're getting ahead of yourself.

What I need right now are good plot ideas. (and a writer ) If you don't have either of those, please don't post in this thread anymore, unless you have something useful to say. (Which you have not, so far.) I feel that it's rapidly becoming unnecessarily cluttered with pointless discussion.

I apologize if this post sounds harsh, but I think it needs to be said.

I have the plot but you still need a writer.

I have an Idea for the first scenario: A scout talks to the leader about how chaos units are attacking again and the leader talks with the heroes(his son and any other heroes the writer makes), then in the scenario you have to get your leader to the exit.

Just a good plot idea, the writer fills it in.

[Bennoman]

I have an idea taken stright out of the history books.

The assumption this story lays in the fact that the biggest difficult for any empire is that of succession. Countless wars have been fought over who should ascend to the throne after said monarch's death. In particular I am thinking of the story of Xenophone. For thouse of you who don't know the story it goes like this.

Xenophone was an officer in the greek military and after the death of the Persian ruler his two son's fought over who should be the next ruler. Xenophone and his band were hired as mercenaries to fight against Darius, who unfortunately for them won. This meant that Xenophone had to hold together a group of terrified mercenaries as they tried to march back to the safety of their own lands. during this time they were constantly assaulted by Darius' troops who were better equipped for the terrain and far more numerous. They survived and Xenophone lived to tell the tale, which you can read in the classics section of any good book store. The book is simply called Xenophone.

My suggestion is to have the story as a similar tale. A group of westnorthian mercenaries are hired to fight in a war between two opposing factions in the Khalifate, to which they are on the loosing side. The main plot will revolve themselves and a number of defeated Khalifate units fighting their way back to Wesnorth. This gives ample opportunity for you to discuss the world of the Khalifate from the point of view of someone we are already familiar with i.e. Wesnorth.

Alternatively if you wished to do a campaign based after the fall. I would suggest to set it in the first few years after it happened. Someone already pointed out that since they are a desert dwelling people they will have fared better than most and you can focus on their attempts to secure their borders in the face of floods of refugees pouring in from the north, as well as the things following them... Like orcs and Liches.

[Captain_Wrathbow]

That's exactly what I've been looking for! Bennoman, if I were to use that idea for the campaign, would you be interested in being the story and dialog writer?

[SkyOne]

It is slightly too late to say even just a day later, but I established this thread for the case.
Hopefully, it will give you informations to create a Khalifate campaign, especially what TSI says.

P.S. using Falcons effectively will be nice, I think.
And the ending is always very important in any stories, so finding out how you want to finish the campaign first may make you easier to complete the story.

[Xalzar]

The book is simply called Xenophone.

Nitpick: the book's real name is Anabasis.

Great idea! An Anabasis-like adventure is probably the best solution in order to integrate the Khalifate into the world we already know (i.e. Wesnoth and surroundings). Persia was for Xenophone what Wesnoth (I intended right?) would be for the Khalifate: an hostile and unknown territory, full of enemies never met before (from their point of view, since they have been isolated for long time I suppose) and eventually unsuspected allies.

Good luck with this campaign C_W!

[Bennoman]

Its called the Anabasis?

Well that would explain why I cant find it in book shops! Iam a silly billy.

As for doing the dialog and story for this campaign yes sure I would love to. I have commitments with work and university at the moment but I am sure I can find the free time to do this. Though word of warning, whilst I am confident I can create a good story and good dialog my spelling and grammar is terrible so you may want to proof read it!

How many scenarios were you thinking? I was thinking we could tell a good story in 10-12 scenarios.