How do I update to 1.3.14

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TruePurple
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How do I update to 1.3.14

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Without basically having to download the whole game again and install over the old one? Surely there must be a patch for updating just the changes?
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Post by Bob_The_Mighty »

Nope. As far as I know, you must install the whole game again.
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Re: How do I update to 1.3.14

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TruePurple wrote:Surely there must be a patch for updating just the changes?
http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/Download_Xdeltas
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Post by VS »

Xdelta between installers is 105 MB, and a simple copy of all changed files 58. Sorry, but there is no way you could get any gain from the first, and I must decline to provide the second - wasting that much time on uploading is not my hobby :)

Also, re "install over the old one" - you shouldn't do that, install into new folder (or remove the old one first). There were some bugs in the past that accounted for this. If you want to keep your settings, saves and everything, copy folder "userdata" from the old installation to new.
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Post by TruePurple »

"1.3.13 to 1.3.14 (5.8 MB)"

You saying that won't work to update the game?
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Post by anakayub »

The easiest and simplest way is simply deleting the old version and installing the new version over it. You really shouldn't bother too much with other methods unless you are willing to learn/already know computering stuff, especially on your own. The current method is good enough for "the rest of us", unless if you have a slow internet connection. I've no experience with XDelta, but the trouble is not worth it just for the sake of saving bandwitdth (if you're on broadband, of course) when you are inexperienced.
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Post by TruePurple »

Its not like I would do any serious harm. I mean at the worst the game doesnt work, then I just reinstall like I would anyways.

But besides saving download time I'd be saving unpacking time, installing time, copy and paste time from trying to save settings & saved games. Perhaps even could spare me time redownloading a bunch of mods.

So If I could get some rough instructions for using these Xdelta things it would be appreciated.
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i am a noob

Post by vaen »

how do you remove wesnoth 1.3.13??? i am going to update also

sorry just a noob

thanks
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Post by rchandra »

When you uninstall the mods and saves should still be there (they were for me). Install the new one to the same place and the mods will be in-game, however not all of them will work due to updating. (Heroes Arena was not 1.3.14-ready, but the Kalifa Era didn't have any issues).
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Post by TruePurple »

Oh yeah, and saving uninstall time.
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Re: How do I update to 1.3.14

Post by Mellar »

TruePurple wrote:Without basically having to download the whole game again and install over the old one? Surely there must be a patch for updating just the changes?
You can use the subversion sources. Then you only download new and modified files, compile and install. In my experience, the subversion sources are pretty much as stable as the development releases.
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Post by TruePurple »

What do you mean by subversion? How does that relate to "xdelta"? Where can I download it? Is it tough to install? Would you please tell me how?

When I install 1.3.14, should all my saves still work?
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Post by VS »

Subversion (svn) - this is a program that allows easy cooperation when working on a project; to put it in other way, think of it as different ind ftp with more features - there is a server, and you synchronize your files with it (or the other way round).

When a release is released, a complete copy of files from svn is packed together and released - this is what the download page calls source code. To get a working game, you must compile these. Another person does this and makes an installer with this compiled stuff, which is what you as a normal user download.

If you want to use data puled from svn, you must put in quite a lot of further work (on Windows), and the same holds true for source downloads. The 5.8 MB download you mentioned is a patch for sources and thus not really of any use to you.

Xdelta is a program that takes two files and created another which describes differences between them. It is operated from command line.

This is used for source downloads, since the format of the file in which sources are released is not compressed, only "all stuffed together" (and only after that compressed). However, this won't work for installers, since they are compressed without any intermediate steps, at which a difference could be easily searched for. Compression generally works "unpredictably" in the sense that the results of compressing two similar files may result in much more different archives. Thus, difference between windows installer files is huge even if the underlying changes are relatively small.

Conclusion - unfortunately, you have to download the 100+MB file like everyone else (or have a friend download it for you). What anakyub said.

And as for installing xdelta and subversion, well, the "toughness" depends on your geekness :)
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Post by TruePurple »

When I install 1.3.14, should all my saves still work?
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Post by Clonkinator »

TruePurple wrote:When I install 1.3.14, should all my saves still work?
That depends. Some might, some might not. Saves of maps with map data that still have no header yet are very likely to be corrupted now for example.
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