Wesnoth Forum Era

[ParadiseCity]

Ulf, Gobo, WC, Spearmen(Javelineer), Gryphon, Assassin, Troll(Rocklobber), and Augur come to mind when thinking of 1-advancement units. It's actually not that uncommon. What a unit advances to should be a matter of taste and logic, rather than filling a quota of unit advancements.

[Maramros]

Ulf, WC, and Gryphon are the only ones that only have one option, however. But yes, I agree.

[Captain_Wrathbow]

I think it ought to stay how it is.

[King_Elendil]

I agree with C_W, I think it's just fine the way it is.
Lol, this looks like it is going to be lots of fun! If you have another sign-up, I wouldn't mind participating

[monochromatic]

An attempt at balancing (for the melee, ranged, scout, heavy, and mage lines). I had no idea about the WML wizards and the Hunters. Anyhow, here it is:
(mag) = magical, (s) = slows, (c) = charge, (d) = drains

Balancing:

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Unit               Attack Type     Melee Attack     Ranged Attack     Hitpoints     Movement     Experience     Cost     Ability
----               -----------     ------------     -------------     ---------     --------     ----------     ----     -------

Dixie              blade           7-3              N/A               35            5            38             13
artisticdude       blade           10-3             N/A               50            5            54            (23)
Zerovirus          blade           15-3             N/A               73            5            N/A           (40)
Araja              fire            9-3 (mag)        N/A               43            5            60            (26)       leadership
elvish_sovereign   blade           11-3 (mag)       N/A               64            5            N/A           (43)       leadership
Aura               blade/impact    7-4/14-2 (s)     N/A               53            5            N/A           (25)       steadfast (or high resists)
Pentarctagon       blade/pierce    6-2              6-3               31            5            40             15
Captain_Wrathbow   blade/pierce    8-2              7-4               42            6            55            (27)
LightFighter       blade/pierce    11-2             10-4              62            6            N/A           (48)
boru               blade/pierce    7-2              15-2              45            5            58            (27)
TheBladeRoden      blade/pierce    7-3              21-2              64            5            N/A           (48)
Hulavuta           pierce/pierce   4-4              6-1               29            8            32             18
Stern              blade/pierce    6-4              6-2               41            8            50            (31)
Alarantara         impact/pierce   7-2 (mag)        8-3 (mag)         59            9            N/A           (53)       skirmisher?
Golbeeze           impact/fire     9-2              5-3               38            4            42             18       (high resists)
PsychoticKittens   impact/fire     11-2             9-3               56            4            N/A           (31)      (higher resists)
PeterPorty         impact/fire     9-2 (c)/8-3      N/A               53            6            58            (30)
tapik              impact          11-3 (c)         N/A               77            6            N/A           (45)
mamoros            impact/arcane   5-1              6-3 (mag)         25            5            44             17
sur.nhm            impact/fire     5-2              6-4 (mag)         43            5            69            (32)
inferno8           fire/fire       8-2              9-4 (mag)         59            5            N/A           (52)
ParadiseCity       arcane/cold     6-2 (d)          8-3 (mag)         43            5            69            (32)       undead
wesfreak           arcane/cold     9-2 (d)          11-3 (mag)        59            5            100           (52)       undead
Qazerowl           arcane/cold     12-2 (d)         14-3 (mag)        71            6            N/A           (73)       undead

There were some interesting and weird things to work out. (For ex. PeterPorty -> tapik). Anyhow I tried as much as possible to avoid RIPLB, but had to resort to that at times.

[Zerovirus]

Make my attack 45-1 and I think we're good

[monochromatic]

Argh the forums messed up the chart! Next time, I'm just gonna attach a file.

[Hulavuta]

Arrg, elvish_sovereign, why did you make me so weak? I'm weaker than a mainline Saurian! The 8 MP doesn't really make up for it IMO, maybe giving 1 or 2 more ranged strikes and a tad stronger melee would?

[monochromatic]

Sure, I guess. I'll need to make you cost 1 gold more though then.
EDIT: Btw, I also had given you more hp. Anyhow I made you (and the rest of the line) stronger by one point and upped the price by one.

[Maramros]

Just to be nitpicky, you spelled my name wrong.
Also, my unit seems a bit... weak. What level am I supposed to be? To compare me to the mainline augur, I have +3 hp, -1 mp, -1 damage to ranged, +1 damage and -1 strike to melee, and +16 xp. Not that I have to be exactly the same, but I seem weaker... unless I'm supposed to be level 0?
I apologize for being picky.
~Maramros

[artisticdude]

The last version of the advancement tree is now final.

Now onto balancing (which seems to have already begun without me ).

We're also in the process of acquiring a new team member, and should the proposed candidate accept, the balancing process will go much faster than I had originally anticipated.

[Golbeeze]

Hmmm allow me to rephrase my question. What options are there for leaders? Is Araja the only leader? On the chart he is labeled as "leaders" and no one else is. That is why I was confused. I understand that he can be leveled into and out of, but I wasn't sure if many level 2s were options for leaders or if it was restricted to the one.

Also, the Red Ulfserker (my unit) was a "berserk" unit initially. If that doesn't fit well with the era then I'm fine with the statistics you gave it. I just thought I'd throw it out there!

[boru]

A brief glance at the cfg I supplied will help with the stats. At least they are starting points, what the team decides to do for balancing purposes is fine with me. But the unit gets a spear and thunderstick, and unless you want to change that too, there's no blade attack.

[artisticdude]

What options are there for leaders? Is Araja the only leader? On the chart he is labeled as "leaders" and no one else is. That is why I was confused.

Araja and e_s are both leaders. I probably should have made it clearer, but the term refers to the line of units after Dixie.

[monochromatic]

Now onto balancing (which seems to have already begun without me ).

Oh sorry I didn't mean to try to leave you out, I just had ideas. If I have offended you, I'm sorry.

Also, the Red Ulfserker (my unit) was a "berserk" unit initially. If that doesn't fit well with the era then I'm fine with the statistics you gave it. I just thought I'd throw it out there!

Oops. I didn't realize, I only made attacks judging from the sprite. But it's up to artisticdude and Captain_Wrathbow in the end. So, yeah.

A brief glance at the cfg I supplied will help with the stats. At least they are starting points, what the team decides to do for balancing purposes is fine with me. But the unit gets a spear and thunderstick, and unless you want to change that too, there's no blade attack.

Really? Like Golbeeze above, I only made those suggestions based on the sprites. And it's up to artisticdude and Captain_Wrathbow to make the final decisions.

For both of you, I can change it in the chart above, but it would take some work because I had envisioned the rest of the units lines differently. So, in order to not violate RIPLB I will leave the decisions to artisticdude and Captain_Wrathbow.