Choose your leader

miyo · Post by **miyo** » September 20th, 2004, 11:31 pm

...has been implemented in CVS HEAD... and now you are of course wondering which units are available as leaders:

http://factions.wesnoth.org

Clicking the unit images takes you to entry of that unit on http://units.wesnoth.org. Available leaders are prone to change.

- Miyo

ps. Thanks to Sanna for helping with this.

Post by **turin** » September 21st, 2004, 1:09 am

units that shouldn't be leaders
just my list of what IMHO shouldn't be available.

Rebels: Elvish Rider, Druid*, Elvish Marksman (maybe)
Undead: Wraith, Shadow
Knaglan Alliance: n/a
Drakes: Getting revamped, whats the point?
Loyalists: Knight, Dragoon, Mage of Light*
Northerners: Goblin Knight, Goblin Pillager\

thats all for Default... i'll look at AoH and Classic later.

*: I don't think you should be allowed heroes as leaders, but thats just IMO.

Post by **Sangel** » September 21st, 2004, 1:15 am

Great! Choose your leader should be a cool idea.

I don't mind most of the leader choices but I think having the Stalwart as a leader option is a seriously bad idea. This unit is twice as hard to kill as any other Level 2 unit, and when the goal of multiplayer is "kill the leader", I think that's unfair.

Also, for the Elves on Age of Heroes - why would you pick a L2 Sorceress when you could pick a L3 Enchantress? Methinx this is an oversight.

MadMax · Post by **MadMax** » September 21st, 2004, 1:24 am

The Fire Drake under leaders is screwed up. It appears as a gryphon and a ghoul.

miyo · Post by **miyo** » September 21st, 2004, 5:41 am

Sangel wrote:Also, for the Elves on Age of Heroes - why would you pick a L2 Sorceress when you could pick a L3 Enchantress?;)

It was mistake, and has now been fixed.

This is why I wanted to create this page... it visualizes the matter, helps us catch the bugs... helps us to scrap worst mistakes before 0.8.5 becomes released with this =)

- Miyo

miyo · Post by **miyo** » September 21st, 2004, 5:46 am

turin wrote:Drakes: Getting revamped, whats the point?

We will not remove them just because someone is redoing them. That redoing might never finish.

turin wrote:thats all for Default... i'll look at AoH and Classic later.

Mage of Light is not available as leader in Default. You are either talking about White Mage or AoH.

turin wrote:*: I don't think you should be allowed heroes as leaders, but thats just IMO.

Elvish Druid and Mage of Light are not heroes. Elvish Shaman advances to Elvish Druid, White Mage advances to Mage of Light (http://units.wesnoth.org).

miyo · Post by **miyo** » September 21st, 2004, 6:11 am

MadMax wrote:The Fire Drake under leaders is screwed up. It appears as a gryphon and a ghoul.

Fixed.

- Miyo

miyo · Post by **miyo** » September 21st, 2004, 6:15 am

turin wrote:units that shouldn't be leaders

Rebels: Elvish Rider
Loyalists: Knight, Dragoon
Northerners: Goblin Knight, Goblin Pillager

This just adds possibility to do your own "Arturio and Sarmatian Knights". If you don't like them, don't play with them.

- Miyo

miyo · Post by **miyo** » September 21st, 2004, 6:19 am

turin wrote:Undead: Wraith, Shadow

Why not? Elvish have Ranger/Avenger that can hide in woods, undead leaders with undeadfoot movetype can go 'deep walking'

We should remove leaders that are most unbalancing (e.g. we did not allow White Mage as leader for Rebels as they can recruit 'Elvish Shaman' for healing power and 'Elvish Druid' as leader. Loyalists can not get healing power until they advance Mages to White Mages so letting them have White Mage as leader should not be so unbalancing).

- Miyo

Post by **turin** » September 21st, 2004, 12:44 pm

i meant no healers as leaders... and i don't think scouts should be allowed for leaders because they move too fast.. and flying ones could just go onto water and never die.

miyo · Post by **miyo** » September 21st, 2004, 12:50 pm

turin wrote:flying ones could just go onto water and never die.

Don't you now forget that undeadfoot can go deep walking.

- Miyo

Post by **Neoriceisgood** » September 21st, 2004, 1:32 pm

Next up! An option that allows you to pick a body guard ala deflador to assist your weaker units in battle ! muwahah.

sanna · Post by **sanna** » September 21st, 2004, 2:14 pm

Neoriceisgood wrote:Next up! An option that allows you to pick a body guard ala deflador to assist your weaker units in battle ! muwahah.

And if you pick one, your leader is automatically degraded to level 1.

scott · Post by **scott** » September 21st, 2004, 2:42 pm

Couldn't the Death Knight replace the Revenant for Age of Heros?

yeti · Post by **yeti** » September 21st, 2004, 4:40 pm

There's an image of Elvish Hero where Elvish Captain should be in Age of Heroes -> Rebels -> Recruits ... how can it happen, I thought it was generated?