problems whit shading, help needed

Sabata · Post by **Sabata** » June 7th, 2007, 4:47 pm

Well this is not Wesnoth's art I mean it is not be used in Wesnoth, but since I need some help in upgreating my shading I ask for help here... so anyone who can show me the wrong things and the rigth things... please

jdsampayo · Post by **jdsampayo** » June 7th, 2007, 5:03 pm

They are very good!

In cyborg2.png I see some pixels outside the image, just a little up of the big shoulder.

Suggestion: Maybe you can play with the pairs of eyes, you know, for a level 1 unit a pair, for a level 2 two pairs and... you get the point.

cheers!

Shadow · Post by **Shadow** » June 7th, 2007, 5:21 pm

Well already very good shading so far.
Some higher contrast perhaps to distuingish the color areas even more perhaps. Than a global light source. One source of light(which is not right in the middle).
One side will get darker than the the other -> assymetric shading.

Weeksy · Post by **Weeksy** » June 7th, 2007, 6:31 pm

This looks great and the sort of thing that spacenoth could use for their ground variant... one thing though, they look a lot more like generic androids than the human-robot combinations that cyborgs are.

Na'enthos · Post by **Na'enthos** » June 8th, 2007, 10:53 am

Like Weeksy said, Spacenoth (http://exong.net/spacenoth/) may be able to use your quite well-made sprites. Of course you can always post them here (too), it is true more people frequent these forums.

Sabata · Post by **Sabata** » June 8th, 2007, 11:24 am

Na'enthos wrote:Like Weeksy said, Spacenoth (http://exong.net/spacenoth/) may be able to use your quite well-made sprites. Of course you can always post them here (too), it is true more people frequent these forums.

He he he... this art IS for spacenoth, I'we been developing spacenoth for some time now... and the reason to post here is that I needed some advices from better artists.

But you know, its good to see that people know about spacenoth.

Sabata · Post by **Sabata** » June 10th, 2007, 12:22 am

Still not happy....

Post by **irrevenant** » June 10th, 2007, 1:36 am

I suspect you mean "exterminator", but "extreminator" is a cool term.

Post by **West** » June 10th, 2007, 2:26 am

Or maybe an Excremator?? :O

...

Sorry, I had a childish moment. As you were.

Mathijs · Post by **Mathijs** » June 12th, 2007, 8:49 am

jdsampayo wrote: Suggestion: Maybe you can play with the pairs of eyes, you know, for a level 1 unit a pair, for a level 2 two pairs and... you get the point.

That's a good idea, but it's not very obvious to see. I would add something else too. Like spikes on his armor. Or giving him platinum plates and then a golden plate. (That would be somewhat irrealistic as gold is a very soft metal :p) Or adding a coloured 'tatoo' on his armor (in his teamcolor) that gets more complex with his rank.
I dunno, just something a bit more noticable!

The android gunner seems to be missing an eye, but that could be my wrong idea of perspective (the left eyes (left on the picture) seem to be on one line, so you'd expect the right ones to either both be visible or both be invisible)
His left arm looks bended in comparison to it's right arm.

The Xtreminators

legs look a bit whobly. His right leg should be set straight like the other one perhaps?

apart from that, I think those droids are nicelooking.

cheers!

Sabata · Post by **Sabata** » June 15th, 2007, 3:23 pm

Mathijs wrote:
jdsampayo wrote: Suggestion: Maybe you can play with the pairs of eyes, you know, for a level 1 unit a pair, for a level 2 two pairs and... you get the point.
That's a good idea, but it's not very obvious to see. I would add something else too. Like spikes on his armor. Or giving him platinum plates and then a golden plate. (That would be somewhat irrealistic as gold is a very soft metal :p) Or adding a coloured 'tatoo' on his armor (in his teamcolor) that gets more complex with his rank.
I dunno, just something a bit more noticable!

The android gunner seems to be missing an eye, but that could be my wrong idea of perspective (the left eyes (left on the picture) seem to be on one line, so you'd expect the right ones to either both be visible or both be invisible)
His left arm looks bended in comparison to it's right arm.

The Xtreminators legs look a bit whobly. His right leg should be set straight like the other one perhaps?

apart from that, I think those droids are nicelooking.

cheers!

Uhh... didnt saw your post, yup, gunner arm is not very well... i'll change that, and the Xtreminator too.

My new making... anything wrong?

Telvannia · Post by **Telvannia** » June 15th, 2007, 6:41 pm

i dont like that random patch of yellow, and some how it does not seem to fit in with the other units.

Sabata · Post by **Sabata** » June 16th, 2007, 12:44 am

Telvannia wrote:i dont like that random patch of yellow, and some how it does not seem to fit in with the other units.

Hmm maybe... it had better looking in paper... ah well better? And changed that problem whit gunner arm. Anything else need change?

And i saw some contrast diference so I made briger gunner is it better or not?

Sabata · Post by **Sabata** » June 18th, 2007, 1:28 am

Now, comming back to shading... gunner whit new tipe of shading... people who know how to make good shading please respond.
Am I in a good way?

Shadow · Post by **Shadow** » June 19th, 2007, 9:09 am

Sabata wrote:Now, comming back to shading... gunner whit new tipe of shading... people who know how to make good shading please respond.
Am I in a good way?

I would deepen the shadows on the edges a bit. Even more darker areas he is still quite bright. Also you can use some other colors than white on the relections. Reflections on Metal sometimes change the color. (It is a bit exagerated but that's spriting all about)