Forum restructuring - discussion

JW · Post by JW » February 23rd, 2006, 6:31 am

Here's a mind-blowing idea:

How about all members are "Restricted Member"s until they reach what is currently known as "Forum Regular"s which would then just be called "Member"s?

This would get the point across that we are all members and that some are restricted in their posting.

Simple, elegant, blunt.

scott · Post by **scott** » February 23rd, 2006, 12:00 pm

I would prefer something like that but it can't be done automatically. There are a lot of new users to keep track of and it's easier to add users with the best quality posts as they emerge than continuously track all users.

Ranks have no effect on posting but can be automatically assigned based on post count.
Usergroups have a big effect but must be manually managed.
These two constructs would be much more useful if they could be combined.

JW · Post by JW » February 23rd, 2006, 5:18 pm

scott wrote:I would prefer something like that but it can't be done automatically. There are a lot of new users to keep track of and it's easier to add users with the best quality posts as they emerge than continuously track all users.

So users can't automatically be placed in a usergroup when they join?

If not, why not just change the current "Forum Regular"s into "Member"s?

SmokemJags · Post by **SmokemJags** » February 25th, 2006, 11:06 pm

Anyone else find it bothersome when a thread they post in gets moved to a section they cannot post it?
Like this thread.
http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10048
I kinda would like to continue discussing topics that are deemed signficant enough to warrant special attention.

But maybe it's not so bad, I can help come up with interesting ideas, and then it gets taken out of my hands and other people have to deal with it. Maybe that's not so bad after all...

Ranger M · Post by **Ranger M** » February 25th, 2006, 11:10 pm

actually, I'm surprised that you aren't a forum regular by now, your posts and attitude seem mature enough

and a solution to this problem is to find somebody willing to put forward your veiws for you, as long as they are sensible and constructive to the topic.

SmokemJags · Post by **SmokemJags** » February 25th, 2006, 11:14 pm

Funny story. I've managed to both become a 'forum regular' and be stripped of it in... twelve days?
I'd call myself Lightning Man, if I didn't already know someone by the monkier.

I probably earned the stripping to be honest though. *Shrug*
Long as I get to keep working on my bat animation, and maybe more contributions, I'm okay with it though. Forum titles, climbing the ranks, and the like... don't mean what the used to for me.

db0 · Post by **db0** » February 26th, 2006, 2:03 am

SmokemJags wrote:Funny story. I've managed to both become a 'forum regular' and be stripped of it in... twelve days?

Beat you. I just got mine revoked within less than a week.

What's the deal guys? I mean, I, like SmokemJags, don't really care about ranks but this is silly. I feel like I've been slapped on the wrist without being told what I did wrong.

deonjo · Post by **deonjo** » February 26th, 2006, 2:23 am

ya, I sorta felt detached when the thread I made was like snatched out of my hand. But I guess I'm cool with it. Eleazar is doing a pretty god job defending the idea

http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10048

I think the current systme is pretty good. I think you can't just earn respect through the number of posts u make, but through the quality of them.

Assasin · Post by **Assasin** » February 26th, 2006, 3:17 am

deonjo wrote:I think the current systme is pretty good. I think you can't just earn respect through the number of posts u make, but through the quality of them.

*sigh*

so true

SmokemJags · Post by **SmokemJags** » February 26th, 2006, 3:42 am

db0 wrote:I just got mine revoked within less than a week.

Maybe I should mention my entire stay here has been 12 days in all, not 12 days from becoming regular to losing that status. You still beat that?

db0 wrote:I mean, I, like SmokemJags

This comment plus your avatar makes me think of Brokeback mountain...

I think you can't just earn respect through the number of posts u make, but through the quality of them.

That I was made forum regular so quickly speaks legions for the quality of my posts.
But this is true, it doesn't matter the amount of posts you make.
What matters is the number of bad posts you make.
I made one and called someone an attention 'oar' (replace oar with something that rhymes with it)
That one misdeed outshines any good I may have wrought.
I had no idea it was even that bad, but I'm still learning. Probably shouldn't have even been made forum regular in the first place. (It was a wonderful gesture by someone but in hindsight, perhaps one made too hastily)
Hell I know I'm a forum 'oar' myself, freely admit it.

db0 · Post by **db0** » February 26th, 2006, 4:00 am

SmokemJags wrote:
db0 wrote:I mean, I, like SmokemJags
This comment plus your avatar makes me think of Brokeback mountain...

Mind the commas! Mind the commas!

My avatar in an undead gunslinger mind you

That I was made forum regular so quickly speaks legions for the quality of my posts.
But this is true, it doesn't matter the amount of posts you make.
What matters is the number of bad posts you make.
I made one and called someone an attention 'oar' (replace oar with something that rhymes with it)
That one misdeed outshines any good I may have wrought.
I had no idea it was even that bad, but I'm still learning. Probably shouldn't have even been made forum regular in the first place. (It was a wonderful gesture by someone but in hindsight, perhaps one made too hastily)
Hell I know I'm a forum 'oar' myself, freely admit it.

I still have no clue what I did wrong. I'd appreciate at least a PM explaining that decision.

oh well...

SmokemJags · Post by **SmokemJags** » February 26th, 2006, 5:04 am

You browse through your past posts? It's probably something that got deleted or edited, and not by you.

toms · Post by **toms** » March 1st, 2006, 7:20 pm

I canÃ‚Â´t help me but I have the feeling that much more topics get locked since the restructuring.

(not counted NoyÃ‚Â´s great day of topic locking

)

Post by **Ken_Oh** » March 1st, 2006, 9:07 pm

i don't have any problem with any of the lockings since the restructuring.

Skippy · Post by **Skippy** » March 1st, 2006, 10:00 pm

SmokemJags wrote:Anyone else find it bothersome when a thread they post in gets moved to a section they cannot post it?
Like this thread.
http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10048
I kinda would like to continue discussing topics that are deemed signficant enough to warrant special attention.
But maybe it's not so bad, I can help come up with interesting ideas, and then it gets taken out of my hands and other people have to deal with it. Maybe that's not so bad after all...

Obviously nobody that matters has that problem.

It is a time honoured tradition for people in superior positions to take underling's ideas and cut the originator out of the process. Sometimes it works. Many times it doesn't. And it invariably annoys the person who contributed the idea in the first place.

Perhaps the powers that be could organise a day pass for you to 'address the board' when one of your ideas is deemed significant enough to be considered by 'the board'. Just remember to address them all as sir and make sure to touch your cap before you address them if you ever get the chance.

Alternatively, couldn't they start a new thread in the developers forums with a link to the original thread. That way, the idea can continue to be discussed in the open but the developers can have their discussion untroubled by the forum irregulars. I think this would also minimise the obvious annoyance of the current method of taking the whole thread away from the people who developed it and implicitly telling them that their input is no longer valued.