Can't find where to DL 1.1.1

Post by **Doc Paterson** » February 10th, 2006, 3:36 pm

Yogi Bear wrote: It might not be balanced. So definitely not a platform for "serious" gaming (whatever that is ).

One thing that is for sure though is that the factional matchups are a WHOLE LOT more balanced than they are on the Stable branch.

Powered down Knalgans, powered down Wolfriders, powered up Undead, rebalanced maps, etc. etc. etc......

Herduk · Post by **Herduk** » February 10th, 2006, 3:49 pm

Doc Paterson wrote: It might not be balanced. So d
Powered down Knalgans

Too much powered down IMHO.

Post by **Yogibear** » February 10th, 2006, 3:56 pm

Doc Paterson wrote:
Yogi Bear wrote: It might not be balanced. So definitely not a platform for "serious" gaming (whatever that is ).
One thing that is for sure though is that the factional matchups are a WHOLE LOT more balanced than they are on the Stable branch.

Powered down Knalgans, powered down Wolfriders, powered up Undead, rebalanced maps, etc. etc. etc......

You are right, it is probably more balanced than 1.0.2 at the moment. And this was not meant to criticize your and others work on balancing (excellent job so far

). What i meant is, we might introduce something new (maybe traits, maybe terrain, maybe tweaking the fighting mechanics) that screws up balance again. It can happen every moment during development.

Rune · Post by **Rune** » February 10th, 2006, 6:05 pm

Yogi Bear wrote:As was said a couple of times before, this is a development version.

I think the main problem here is that most people who aren't programmers don't understand what 'development' version means. When a user looks at the front page he sees two options: Wesnoth 1.0.2 or Wesnoth 1.1.1. Most people will naturally download 1.1.1 because that is the newer version. The words stable and development are just words, and people are quite used to ignoring tech jargon they don't understand.

What I'm trying to say here is that there should be more detailed information on the front page regarding the difference between the two release types. Preferably there should be some warning text next to the development version.

Post by **freim** » February 10th, 2006, 6:14 pm

Rune wrote:
Yogi Bear wrote:As was said a couple of times before, this is a development version.
I think the main problem here is that most people who aren't programmers don't understand what 'development' version means. When a user looks at the front page he sees two options: Wesnoth 1.0.2 or Wesnoth 1.1.1. Most people will naturally download 1.1.1 because that is the newer version. The words stable and development are just words, and people are quite used to ignoring tech jargon they don't understand.

What I'm trying to say here is that there should be more detailed information on the front page regarding the difference between the two release types. Preferably there should be some warning text next to the development version.

On the main page there are two links called "stable" and "development". If you click on these you get exactly that, a detailed explanation.

Rune · Post by **Rune** » February 10th, 2006, 6:33 pm

frame wrote: On the main page there are two links called "stable" and "development". If you click on these you get exactly that, a detailed explanation.

Yes, but most people won't click on those links. They will simply click the Windows (1.1) link and go directly to download.

Post by **freim** » February 10th, 2006, 6:40 pm

Rune wrote:
frame wrote: On the main page there are two links called "stable" and "development". If you click on these you get exactly that, a detailed explanation.
Yes, but most people won't click on those links. They will simply click the Windows (1.1) link and go directly to download.

Then the problem is that people don't bother to read the provided information, not that the information is missing.

Tomsik · Post by **Tomsik** » February 10th, 2006, 6:46 pm

Maybe put it somewhere where you can't see directly from homepage?
Or when somebody click on link to download 1.1 make big message appear that can discourage most of newbies that try to download it and saying they should get 1.0.x.

Rune · Post by **Rune** » February 10th, 2006, 6:47 pm

frame wrote: Then the problem is that people don't bother to read the provided information, not that the information is missing.

Certainly. I never said the information was missing.

However, that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to make the information more visible. As it is now we are bound to get these complaints from users who have downloaded a development version but should have used stable instead.

Troth · Post by **Troth** » February 10th, 2006, 6:56 pm

I agree with Rune and Tomsik there. The headline "Wesnoth 1.1.1" charms users (of course not all) simply to click on the windows link below (which leads you the sourceforege site with the 1.1.0 listings).

I dont know if it is difficult to remove this windows link till the 1.1.1 version is there.

Cuyo Quiz · Post by **Cuyo Quiz** » February 10th, 2006, 6:57 pm

Fix me, happy bear, FIX ME!.

Now... you know this is just Friday happiness hype, so chill.

Post by **Yogibear** » February 10th, 2006, 8:50 pm

Windows binaries are ready (see the announcement thread):

http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9626