New animations

Tomsik · Post by **Tomsik** » January 25th, 2006, 3:15 pm

Ehm...
It's spear! And it deal pierce damage! He uses it like staff or club... it would be impact damage rather...

RealNitro · Post by **RealNitro** » January 25th, 2006, 3:33 pm

Redeth wrote:
zookeeper wrote:The spear gets blurred (probably because it's rotated in a gfx program which blurs when you rotate)
Fixed.

zookeeper wrote:but otherwise I think that's exactly what I would expect from a goblin. If the jump backwards is made to occur after the strike when he's gliding back to his hex, it'll probably fit in nicely.
Excellent suggestion, thanks.

This one looks great!

Post by **Redeth** » January 25th, 2006, 5:57 pm

Tomsik wrote:Ehm...
It's spear! And it deal pierce damage! He uses it like staff or club... it would be impact damage rather...

Oh lord... Please allow me to quote myself...

Redeth wrote:Ok here's the rouser attack. I had to modify the shape of the spike on top of his spear/flag, so his attack is still a PIERCING one as described on his cfg.

The little devil PIERCES the head of his enemies with that extra pointy spike that protrudes from the top of his spear. You better be wearing a helmet. Think of his weapon as a very rudimentary halberd, although the halberd also allows for a slashing attack, which is not the case with this weapon.

JW · Post by JW » January 25th, 2006, 5:59 pm

Redeth wrote:The little devil PIERCES the head of his enemies with that extra pointy spike that protrudes from the top of his spear. You better be wearing a helmet. Think of his weapon as a very rudimentary halberd, although the halberd also allows for a slashing attack, which is not the case with this weapon.

It's really hard to see that extra pointy spike that protrudes from the top of his spear. I have to agree that the attack looks like a bonk, not a pierce.

Post by **Redeth** » January 25th, 2006, 6:08 pm

A noble end for our brave goblin buddy...

note: BEFORE you say he's not falling "hard enough", I'm aware of it, and it can be "fixed" by removing one of the middle frames of the gif, but I prefer to post the entire thing, since in game all the frames can be included for a much better result and the timing/delay of the animation and the frames can be properly set.

JW · Post by JW » January 25th, 2006, 6:10 pm

I like both of your falling forward death anims. Pretty good!

Post by **Boucman** » January 25th, 2006, 6:12 pm

actually, I like the "slow way he falls...

maybe try to make him grab his lance with both hand while dying.... as if trying not to fall...

Tomsik · Post by **Tomsik** » January 25th, 2006, 6:15 pm

Redeth wrote:The little devil PIERCES the head of his enemies with that extra pointy spike that protrudes from the top of his spear. You better be wearing a helmet. Think of his weapon as a very rudimentary halberd, although the halberd also allows for a slashing attack, which is not the case with this weapon.

It's hard to see this additional spike. It's spear anyway, he should thrust...

Post by **Redeth** » January 25th, 2006, 6:27 pm

JW wrote:It's really hard to see that extra pointy spike that protrudes from the top of his spear. I have to agree that the attack looks like a bonk, not a pierce.

humm... well I can make it look much more obvious if you want me to, but then I'd have to modify not only that animation but the one if his death too.. If you all agree on that then I'll do it, but IMO it's not worth the trouble. Believe me the nasty spike IS there

Besides the rouser is not supposed to be a skilled spear fighter, like the impaler is. That's why he's holding a flag, see?... Nah, I think this unconventional piercing attack suits him well.

Post by **Redeth** » January 25th, 2006, 6:35 pm

Boucman wrote:actually, I like the "slow way he falls...

maybe try to make him grab his lance with both hand while dying.... as if trying not to fall...

Good idea for some other death animation

entropomorphic · Post by **entropomorphic** » January 25th, 2006, 6:36 pm

He needs to move his feet while falling over. Right now he looks like one of those wooden thumb toys where you push in the plunger and the guy collapses, only to spring back up again when you release it.
http://www.dozierdesigns.com/Flxthum.html

Maybe he should collapse straight down onto his knees before falling over?

Post by **Redeth** » January 25th, 2006, 6:46 pm

Tomsik wrote:It's hard to see this additional spike. It's spear anyway, he should thrust...

Why can't he pierce that way instead of thrusting? Goblins are not robots, they're not programmed with the "spear-means-thrust" command, they have abilities and skills which combined with their weapons allows them a range of different options for their attacks.

Tomsik · Post by **Tomsik** » January 25th, 2006, 6:49 pm

Because thrusting is more effective in fight! In your way if opponent have helmet(weapon would not have enough energy to destroy it) or you miss(what's very probable) there is no effect, also enemy can go near without problems.

Post by **Redeth** » January 25th, 2006, 7:32 pm

Exactly my point. The rouser is not very effective in battle. The impaler thrusts, the rouser does not. The impaler has ranged attack, the rouser does not. Why? Because the impaler has a conventional pike, while the rouser has a flag and a pointy spike coming from his strange spear. Yes, they both use piercing attacks, but they don't fight the same way. Why have two different units if they are going to behave exactly the same as each other

Anyway, don't worry, I'll work on improving the impaler attack next, so you'll see what the real meaning of thrusting is

I also noticed an error in my rouser death ani, his body seems to get longer as he falls, so it's fixing time...

Ranger M · Post by **Ranger M** » January 25th, 2006, 9:43 pm

Redeth, you inspired me.

(that and I had some free time)

although I feel that it looks wrong somehow...