WHEN OH LORD, WHEN??

Cod · Post by **Cod** » April 11th, 2005, 3:52 pm

When will we have the PC release of the new wesnoth???

Disto · Post by **Disto** » April 11th, 2005, 3:55 pm

Soon, as they said the Windows packager has been informed.

Ankka · Post by **Ankka** » April 11th, 2005, 5:04 pm

Don't you cry we mac users get it usually a little later.

This is a free program, noone gets any money for this (I think) at least not the developers, they're doing this because they like doing it and want to make a good game taking their time, not rushing and releasing a buggy product...

At least that is the impression I have gotten.

IIRWIIR is what people usually say here, too.

Post by **Doc Paterson** » April 11th, 2005, 5:08 pm

I keep obsessively checking back on the downloads section......

MUST INJECT NEW WESNOTH INTO VEINS.....

scott · Post by **scott** » April 11th, 2005, 6:02 pm

Mac OS X download is available on the Kent, UK mirror right now. It takes forever for it to filter over across the pond. I know this thread is about the Windows version but I didn't want to muddy up the announcement thread.

Shade · Post by **Shade** » April 11th, 2005, 9:07 pm

As somebody that's used linux for 'too long' I don't feel too sorry for you Windows users

Post by **Dave** » April 11th, 2005, 9:56 pm

List of things the Windows packager has to do which are higher priority than building the Windows package:

(1) spend time with his brother who is visiting from Australia (in fact, I would build it now, but I'm off to dinner and a basketball game with him)
(2) work on an important project at work that is meant to be done by the end of the week
(3) walk dogs who haven't been out in a couple of days
(4) move trash from back of property to avoid fine from council

Once these things are all done, I'll get right on it

David

Darkmoon · Post by **Darkmoon** » April 12th, 2005, 1:25 am

I have quick question.....

instead of making it windows installer wouldnt it be simpler to have simply a zip file... or zip self extracting file that extracts into proper directories? Asides from other things, wouldnt that also make entire download a bit smaller?

The only thing user would have to do((unless there is way around it)), is to simply make a shortcut to wesnoth.exe

Hmph.... since i have Visual C++ i tried to compile it myself... my computer got stuck somewhere along the way((never compiled anything like that before.. so

)), I will figure it out one day.. hehe.

Locke · Post by **Locke** » April 12th, 2005, 2:33 am

Darkmoon wrote:I have quick question.....

instead of making it windows installer wouldnt it be simpler to have simply a zip file... or zip self extracting file that extracts into proper directories? Asides from other things, wouldnt that also make entire download a bit smaller?

The only thing user would have to do((unless there is way around it)), is to simply make a shortcut to wesnoth.exe

Hmph.... since i have Visual C++ i tried to compile it myself... my computer got stuck somewhere along the way((never compiled anything like that before.. so )), I will figure it out one day.. hehe.

This idea makes the most sense to me. Someone should build the windows executable and then throw it all into a compressed ZIP folder. We don't need a fancy installer.

Shade · Post by **Shade** » April 12th, 2005, 3:15 am

Locke wrote:Someone should build the windows executable and then throw it all into a compressed ZIP folder. We don't need a fancy installer.

Having no installer doesn't buy you much space (As most installers use compression anyway), but what you would get is "dead / obsolete / moved / reorganised" file spam... Trust me... Even if you just 'make insall' regularly you'll accumulate all sorts of fun stuff. If you just wanted a zip with updated files even that wouldn't gain you that much... While it took a while to see the .9 release (so it's a rather poor example) the % of files that get changed between releases is pretty impressive...

But if somebody were willing to build a zip with just the changed files I'm sure nobody would be offended by it... Just nobody has stepped forward to do it (This is a community project, if there is enough demand for it somebody should scratch their itch and just do it.).

Post by **Dave** » April 12th, 2005, 4:06 am

A zip file would hardly be any smaller at all, and has numerous disadvantages. If we were to provide a zip file, we would have to provide it as well as the installer, which would only be more potentially confusing, and owuld make it take longer to deliver releases for Windows.

David

Locke · Post by **Locke** » April 12th, 2005, 4:38 am

Dave wrote:A zip file would hardly be any smaller at all, and has numerous disadvantages. If we were to provide a zip file, we would have to provide it as well as the installer, which would only be more potentially confusing, and owuld make it take longer to deliver releases for Windows.

David

Fair enough.

I thought it just might have been easier than building the installer.

Darkmoon · Post by **Darkmoon** » April 12th, 2005, 4:51 am

Yup, yup...

saw a few programs already compiled and distributed in regular zips, only unzip it and its ready to run. But guess, now it does not sound like such a great idea.

EDIT: just not sure if it was understood, what I meant... that the entire compiled release of wesnoth be in one zip file that unpacks ready to run without any hassles

Post by **Dave** » April 12th, 2005, 2:23 pm

Locke wrote: Fair enough. I thought it just might have been easier than building the installer.

Building the installer is actually easier than a zip, since I have a script which does it.

The main hard part of making a release is compiling and testing Wesnoth.

David

if · Post by if » April 12th, 2005, 3:18 pm

I have suggestion come to Open World... use OpenSource OS...

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