can chess!!!! be applied to wesnoth

arturus2 · Post by **arturus2** » March 15th, 2005, 1:22 pm

i am not bragging or anything but i am an ace at chess but can this help me at wesnoth cos im not to good think of it white being me a loyalist player can you help me

i may be mad but good oh god who am i kidding im rubbish[/quote][/b]

scott · Post by **scott** » March 15th, 2005, 2:12 pm

Yes! Plan out your moves in advance. Understand how each piece moves. Block with zone of control. In this game there's also damage, defense, and resistance, all of which you need to account for, but there are chess-like elements to it. The biggest UNchess-like element is the fact that the probability of kill is 100% in chess and much less here.

grochti · Post by **grochti** » March 15th, 2005, 2:37 pm

You could play some blindfold games against your team mates, while waiting for your opponents moves

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Khaos · Post by **Khaos** » March 15th, 2005, 6:28 pm

I've had success using The Art of War when playing, if your chess tactics don't quite work you might look into this...

Breeblebox · Post by **Breeblebox** » March 15th, 2005, 7:42 pm

Very good suggestion Khaos, I like it so much I'm starting a thread.

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darksteel · Post by **darksteel** » March 15th, 2005, 10:12 pm

i think adding chess will be a good idea

Post by **Dave** » March 16th, 2005, 12:40 am

I don't think it's that much like chess, since things in chess are definite, and being good at chess involves being able to think and reason ahead many moves.

In Wesnoth, things are fuzzier, and so it's generally all about being able to think ahead just one move, while estimating all the possible outcomes of a move, and the probability of the different outcomes.

So, I think there's only a mild relationship. If you picked people from the population at large, I think there'd be a positive correlation between people who are good at chess, and good at Wesnoth, but if you picked people from the gaming community, I think the correlation would lessen quite a bit, and if you picked people from the turn based gaming community, I don't think there'd be much of a correlation at all.

David

Gafgarion · Post by **Gafgarion** » March 16th, 2005, 10:30 pm

Khaos wrote:I've had success using The Art of War when playing, if your chess tactics don't quite work you might look into this...

As have I, the Art of War has helped me in many a video game (Wesnoth included).

arturus2 · Post by **arturus2** » March 22nd, 2005, 1:22 pm

thx yall

now you goona dieeee

energyman76c · Post by **energyman76c** » March 25th, 2005, 1:30 am

Hi,

well, you have to learn to 'read' a situation. In chess the most important point is to evaluate a situation correctly. This is true for wesnoth too. But both games are different enough, that you will have to start from the beginning

CyberJack · Post by **CyberJack** » April 8th, 2005, 1:36 am

energyman76c wrote:Hi,

well, you have to learn to 'read' a situation. In chess the most important point is to evaluate a situation correctly. This is true for wesnoth too. But both games are different enough, that you will have to start from the beginning

I tend to play chess with a lot of position evaluation and not much look ahead, like the guy in this story. And that approach definitely suits Wesnoth much better than the 'Deep Blue' approach of looking 12 moves ahead. Which may be why, even though computers can now beat grandmasters at chess (sometimes!), the Wesnoth AI will nearly always lose to an experienced player with equal funds (irrespective of factions).