Dwarvish Bonesetter

sanna · Post by **sanna** » July 19th, 2004, 2:52 pm

AFAIK, the dwarves have no unit with healing ability. If others think that such a unit would be useful, (perhaps in multiplayer?), I suggest the Dwarvish Bonesetter.

Since mining is a rather accidentprone undertaking, the dwarves, while less knowledgable on herblore and magical healing, nevertheless have developed some skills on the treatment of broken limbs, strained muscles and shard-sliced skin. Not surprisingly, these skills serve them well also in wartime.

If I only could draw, I would submit a graphic (and greatly improve my chances of finding acceptance for this unit

). I'm thinking along the lines of carrying a rather large backpack (w bandages and splints), which while not making him much slower, still hinders him in combat.

MadMax · Post by **MadMax** » July 19th, 2004, 3:44 pm

How about having no attacks at all, 3 movement, heals (not cures), and no advancement? If dwarves do get a healing unit, it shouldn't be that good.

sanna · Post by **sanna** » July 19th, 2004, 3:55 pm

MadMax wrote:How about having no attacks at all, 3 movement, heals (not cures), and no advancement? If dwarves do get a healing unit, it shouldn't be that good.

No attacks and only heals sounds good, but maybe same movement as the Fighter. The sturdy dwarves plod on in the same speed no matter how heavily burdened, sort of.. No advancement is fine with me.

MadMax · Post by **MadMax** » July 19th, 2004, 3:57 pm

sanna wrote:
MadMax wrote:How about having no attacks at all, 3 movement, heals (not cures), and no advancement? If dwarves do get a healing unit, it shouldn't be that good.
No attacks and only heals sounds good, but maybe same movement as the Fighter. The sturdy dwarves plod on in the same speed no matter how heavily burdened, sort of.. No advancement is fine with me.

I know dwarves are sturdy, but I still say 3 movement because if you want to use the healer you have to slow down your army

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Post by **Neoriceisgood** » July 19th, 2004, 4:03 pm

It could get a weak "Bone misplace" melee attack with marksmanship

Dacyn · Post by **Dacyn** » July 19th, 2004, 4:09 pm

It needs an attack; all normal units need to be fighting units.
I don't think the dwarves need a healer.

Gafgarion · Post by **Gafgarion** » July 19th, 2004, 4:41 pm

At the very least it should have a very very weak melee attack. No unit should be totally defenseless unless it's for some special campaign purpose.

Post by **Neoriceisgood** » July 19th, 2004, 4:47 pm

A realy weak "pressure point" attack that would be something like impact or pierce and would be marksman.

sanna · Post by **sanna** » July 19th, 2004, 5:15 pm

Neoriceisgood wrote:A realy weak "pressure point" attack that would be something like impact or pierce and would be marksman.

Then perhaps we should call him Dwarf Spock

But seriously, a weak impact melee attack is probably suitable, I'm not sure about marksman though.

scott · Post by **scott** » July 19th, 2004, 5:23 pm

Listen, if the freaking shaman can get a staff attack, then unless this dwarf wears pink armor, the guy gets a hachet at least (4-2 blade, contrast again with the shaman's 3-2). If his movement is 3, he will be completely useless and will never be recruited. It needs to be at least 4.

sanna · Post by **sanna** » July 19th, 2004, 6:05 pm

scott wrote:If his movement is 3, he will be completely useless and will never be recruited. It needs to be at least 4.

Yes! Dwarves are slow enough now, no need to further slow them down.

telly · Post by **telly** » July 19th, 2004, 6:22 pm

hmmn The dwarf units are already significantly stronger than their elf equivalents. As well dwarves have big resistances so they get much greater benefit from healing and a healer would make them almost impossible to root out of mountains/caves/fort areas.

cobretti · Post by **cobretti** » July 19th, 2004, 10:14 pm

telly wrote:hmmn The dwarf units are already significantly stronger than their elf equivalents. As well dwarves have big resistances so they get much greater benefit from healing and a healer would make them almost impossible to root out of mountains/caves/fort areas.

Unless they receive 'heal' and never 'cure'.

lilepo2023 · Post by **lilepo2023** » July 21st, 2004, 8:55 pm

i think its a good idea, give him very lil attack, but give him some room to move around, and heal wit no cure so dwaves still have to run to a town when they r posened...

MadMax · Post by **MadMax** » July 21st, 2004, 9:05 pm

sanna wrote:
scott wrote:If his movement is 3, he will be completely useless and will never be recruited. It needs to be at least 4.
Yes! Dwarves are slow enough now, no need to further slow them down.

Woses anyone?

That's why they suck.