Overwhelm ability

[Dragon Master]

Well, this ability seems simple enough 'ahem'

Overwhelm: a unit with overwhelm will perform all of its attacks before the defender can respond
Example:The unit with overwhelm has 5-3 melee and the defending unit has 7-2 melee. When the overwhelming unit attacks it will strike for 5 damage three times (taking into account if it misses or hits) then the defending unit will strike for 7 damage 2 times.

what do you think?

[Kestenvarn]

Sounds useful. Planning to add this to your dragons?

[Soliton]

How does it interact with firststrike?

[Dragon Master]

I wasn't planning to add this to my dragons, that would just be cruel to all the other races. I could add it to my some units for my Holy Knights, but someone needs to code the ability first since I'm more of an artist(AKA I have no idea what I'm doing when I code ). However, If first strike happens, the firststriking unit will go through all its attacks first, then the overwhelmer will go through its attacks

[toms]

How does it interact with firststrike?

I suggest:
first strike->overhelm->other strikes of the first striker.

For berserk:
repeat the overhelm-defender strike loop. Not: overhelm-berseker strikes back-overhelm...

[Wush]

Then overwhelm would turn into a disadvantage when fighting a firststriking unit?
Well basically overwhelm is astronger first strike, so why not replace first strike with it?
Another posibility is that overwhelm would only work when you hit.
So every time you hit you are allowed to use your next attack (before your enemy.)

Examples: you have 4 attacks, you attack: your first hit misses the enemy attacks your second attack hits you are allowed to use your third attack you mss the enemy attacks,you use your foruth attack the enemy performs the rest of his attacks.
Or the enemy has first strike you 4 attacks, you attack:
Your enemy atatcks you because of first strike then you attack him you hit you perform your second attack ,you hit and perform your third attack, you miss the enemy attacks, your fourth attack and then the rest of the enemy attacks.

[Dragon Master]

I don't really like your idea Wush. It seems that this ability would balance if its bad against firststrike. That will allow you to use say a 7-4 lvl2 unit with overwhelm, yet not have it overpowered. I meant for this ability to be put on a relativly low hp unit so you would have to basically deal killing blows, but be able to attack without the risk of counterstrike
Example: the overwhelming unit has 5 hp left and 5-4 attack, attacks a unit with 14 hp left and 7-3 attack. Usually this would be suicide, but with overwhelm there is a greater chance that you would kill.

[Deathblower]

I'm not too partial to the idea, but I've seen worse.

Anyway, Toms' idea is by far the best. If you plan to put this in, that is how you should deal with it.

DB

[irrevenant]

I'm assuming this ability only works when attacking (not when defending)?

Actually, I'd quite like to see the opposite ability; a unit performs all of its attacks after its opponent (on defence only). It'd be great for lumbering behemoths like the Rock Golem, and might even be appropriate for something like the Dwarvish Thunderguard.

[Dragon Master]

That sounds good irrevenant! Now if someone could actually come up with the code for this we'd be set

[lz1kwk]

How does it interact with firststrike?

what if when a unit has the first strike ability if an overwhelming unit attacks it, it would just go into normal battle when you attack then your enemy attacks then you attack then your enemy attacks ect.