Generic Unit Portraits

martenzo · Post by **martenzo** » May 10th, 2005, 8:56 am

They look great, but I think it'll take at least 2 months to make them for all units. And if they get officially implemented, they'll be at least 15MB (for all units). Oh yeah, I was wondering, what would the Dark Adept-Necromacer-Lich line look like. (Any Ideas Mr. Lutes ?)

Post by **Jason Lutes** » May 10th, 2005, 2:53 pm

martenzo wrote:They look great, but I think it'll take at least 2 months to make them for all units.

Oh, it'll take me a lot longer than that. I've slowed down already because of all the other work I have, but I'll keep plugging away. This is going to be one of those long-term, gradual contributions. I was able to get a bunch done last week because there was a lull in my regular work schedule.

Disto · Post by **Disto** » May 10th, 2005, 7:30 pm

Yeh, i had this problem, that is why i didn't do any on the the marauders for a while, now i don't really have a excuse though....

Post by **Jetrel** » May 10th, 2005, 8:05 pm

Jason Lutes wrote:
martenzo wrote:They look great, but I think it'll take at least 2 months to make them for all units.
Oh, it'll take me a lot longer than that. I've slowed down already because of all the other work I have, but I'll keep plugging away. This is going to be one of those long-term, gradual contributions. I was able to get a bunch done last week because there was a lull in my regular work schedule.

Thank you. We appreciate those who make something, but we've been burned before by quite a few people who have started to work on something and never finish it.

And perhaps that's not really accurate for me to say, because it's no real loss to us. It does however, deflate our hopes.

If you do finish this, it will be one of the most significant contributions made to this project, and one you are uniquely well-suited to do. It will be greatly appreciated.

Post by **Jetrel** » May 10th, 2005, 8:15 pm

martenzo wrote:they'll be at least 15MB (for all units).

no, I don't think so. His deliberately simple coloring method has one sneaky little benefit - his portraits compress very well (with lossless methods, no less) and average about 50kb a piece.

I think it would only be a few megabytes at most.

Elvish_Pillager · Post by **Elvish_Pillager** » May 10th, 2005, 10:06 pm

At 50kb, there'd need to be 300 to reach 15mb.

martenzo · Post by **martenzo** » May 11th, 2005, 4:43 am

And there'd have to be 140-155 (campign only not incl.). I've put that number because I may have some counting mixups, I actually got 151. 151*50=7550(kb).

just didn't know they compressed well.

Post by **Jason Lutes** » May 13th, 2005, 7:03 am

Got some work done on the Peasant/Spearman line:

Peasant, Spearman

Javelineer

Pikeman, Halbardier

Swordsman, Royal Guard

My main question is, should I take out the visible polearms? They help to differentiate the units, but in actuality the polearms would all be too tall to fit in the portrait, so they look too short.

Elvish_Pillager · Post by **Elvish_Pillager** » May 13th, 2005, 9:37 am

I'd say, put them vertical, and at the left of the image, facing away from the halberdier, as though their opposite ends were being rested on the ground.

EDIT: Only for the Pikeman and Halberdier. The others look nice with the current setup.

aelius · Post by **aelius** » May 13th, 2005, 9:59 am

More outstanding work. I'm really impressed!

- b.

scott · Post by **scott** » May 13th, 2005, 11:44 am

I think the peasant should be older. Edit: not Delfador old, but not so juvenile. I know he has to level up into a spearman or bowman but sometimes they are just used (more rightfully I believe) as townsfolk.

If you moved the halberd you could add the green streamer.

luciano · Post by **luciano** » May 13th, 2005, 8:10 pm

I find the portraits submitted up to now to be really good; but wouldn't it be better to have the ones needed for the shipped campaigns first?

For the leaders in the dark hordes, or the Black Eye campaigns, for example. In this way, the artwork would be readily useful.

In any case, keep up the good work!

Luciano

evil_green · Post by **evil_green** » May 13th, 2005, 11:01 pm

I honestly can't think of any way to lengthen the polearms in your portraits, and unless you can take some creative liberties with the pikeman's appearance, I think they'd have to stay.

Given that, why does the spearman need his weapon shown?

Also, with the swordsman: if the pikeman, the halbardier, and the Royal Guard all have weapons displayed, he might as well too.

Post by **turin** » May 13th, 2005, 11:09 pm

I think that one of the main things that distinguishes the royal guard portrait from the swordsman one (regardess of color) is the absence/presence of the sword. It is, IMHO, good how it is.

I think with the pikeman/halberdier portraits, you should show their pikes leaning against their shoulder, with the head of the weapon out of the picture. It would look good, and it is more realistic than the way they hold it in those portraits.

The javelineer's portrait is good; don't change it.

Post by **Jason Lutes** » May 15th, 2005, 1:08 am

Thanks for the comments, everyone. I'm taking all of them into account.

luciano wrote:I find the portraits submitted up to now to be really good; but wouldn't it be better to have the ones needed for the shipped campaigns first?

I've been working with Scott on the portraits for "Liberty," and I chose this unit line and the next I will attempt (Elven Shaman) because another campaign author requested units from these lines. Trying to take a few birds out at once here.

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