Apfel - Hi, I'm smelly

Apfel · Post by **Apfel** » November 25th, 2007, 11:23 pm

yah ty again for the C&C very much helpful

I'm always afraid to make fat dark lines cause they're so hard to erase so I will save them for photoshop where everything is easy. Anyways stepping stone #4 or 5:

I like it "ok" from the neck down : P

tiny neck or fat head I can't really decide, I never detail faces in pencil cause like I said .03mm is as much an engraving tool as a drawing instrument.

and the hips looks smallish

I can safely say 20-25 more revisions until acceptable

edit:

Shadow · Post by **Shadow** » November 27th, 2007, 5:06 pm

Me likes it. For the coloration somebody with more experience should show up.
One small nitpick you killed the hip with kindness. Aka what was too much in the last version is now perhaps to few?
Anyways keep it coming.

Post by **irrevenant** » November 27th, 2007, 6:58 pm

Shadow wrote:For the coloration somebody with more experience should show up.

Agreed. There's a lot of character in the sketch that's lost in the coloured version.

Apfel · Post by **Apfel** » November 28th, 2007, 12:03 am

lol I thought my coloring would at least be a good foundation for a next step I admittedly don't know

I'll probably go draw another sketch but if anyone wants to play with the coloring and possibly point me in the right direction then by all means, here is the linework file

though I'm sure you can think of a million ways to better spend your time

edit: linework has wider hips now as well!

hip width = shoulder width IIRC

Apfel · Post by **Apfel** » November 28th, 2007, 4:57 am

too va-va-voom before I even think of wrinkles

DDR · Post by **DDR** » November 28th, 2007, 5:10 am

(I like your art)

Post by **irrevenant** » November 28th, 2007, 8:29 am

Apfel wrote:I'll probably go draw another sketch but if anyone wants to play with the coloring and possibly point me in the right direction then by all means, here is the linework file

Just to clarify: It was actually the line art I was concerned about. Your pencil sketch has a lot of character but it seems to have been lost in the 'inking' process.

I've tried to 'digitally ink' your work.

P.S. Note that your art rocks and I cannot do anywhere near as good.

Apfel · Post by **Apfel** » November 28th, 2007, 6:56 pm

Oh! I always try to tell myself that I will make up the details in photoshop and I think I do oversimplify the linework, the sketches do have alot more charm. I think everyone's right though in that it hurts me both with the character and like jetryl said with the variable line widths. I might as well start being bold on paper and sticking with it since I'm re-drawing so much anwyays

and as always ty for your compliments, it's such a novel thing for me it makes me giddy

Shadow · Post by **Shadow** » November 28th, 2007, 7:13 pm

Why don't you work directly in Photoshop. I did also work from a scanned paper in the past but now I won't bother with it anyways. Saves time and the rain woods.

Another thing Give credit where credit is due.
One thing that still keeps me occupied: Warum Apfel?

Apfel · Post by **Apfel** » November 28th, 2007, 7:40 pm

mein Computer ist ein apfel!

from the states though.

I saved up and bought an intuos but for the life of me I can't make a clean line in photoshop with it; even with the size and shape and whatnot set to pen pressure.

Shadow · Post by **Shadow** » November 28th, 2007, 7:55 pm

Ahso stating the obvious.

I can feel your pain though what shall I say. I still use my mouse to draw my stuff.

Post by **irrevenant** » November 28th, 2007, 9:48 pm

Shadow wrote:I still use my mouse to draw my stuff.

Including your avatar? Wow, that's pretty darn impressive!

Shadow · Post by **Shadow** » November 29th, 2007, 3:54 pm

Sadly no my beautiful avatar was done by another gifted DA artist.

Apfel · Post by **Apfel** » November 29th, 2007, 7:27 pm

I pretended to be a painter again which once again led me to discover what an actual trainwreck the lineart was

mmm practice practice practice

and what's worse I spent 20 minutes painting on the layer with my linework so it's stuck there X(

Shadow · Post by **Shadow** » November 29th, 2007, 8:22 pm

Not bad the biggest grip I have are the lips they don't fit. The shading and the form actual.
I don't know if you want to fix it or start from scratch but still good coloring.