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hugh nicks
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The problem does lies with the packages for Ubuntu (and possibly other Debian-based systems.) For some reason they saw fit to split the game up that way rather than have it as one big file. If you're using a package that's supposed to depend on all the Wesnoth packages, and it's not working that way, then that's an issue to take to the packagers. AFAIK, it is out of the Wesnoth devs' control.
I'm not sure if any other packaging systems did it that way. If you download the source and build from that (as I did), you get all the official stuff in one pop.
I'm not sure if any other packaging systems did it that way. If you download the source and build from that (as I did), you get all the official stuff in one pop.
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freim
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Not really. Isaac is the package manager for Debian/Ubuntu and he has packaged them in a way that the additional packages are marked as suggestions. The problem seems to be that Synaptic and the Add/Remove Applications in Ubuntu as default is set up to not notify the user about suggested packages, which is rather unfortunate as newbies will get rather confused by this I imagine. As I said the program dselect notify the user about it correctly in Ubuntu, so it's not a problem with the way they are packages.Master Stilgar wrote:The problem does lies with the packages for Ubuntu (and possibly other Debian-based systems.) For some reason they saw fit to split the game up that way rather than have it as one big file. If you're using a package that's supposed to depend on all the Wesnoth packages, and it's not working that way, then that's an issue to take to the packagers. AFAIK, it is out of the Wesnoth devs' control.
I'm not sure if any other packaging systems did it that way. If you download the source and build from that (as I did), you get all the official stuff in one pop.
PS, I will not advice newbies to try dselect, it's a command line tool with a rather arcane interface
Running Synaptic like this 'synaptic -r' will make it mark and install suggested packages.-
isaac
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Oh, hi!
First of all, I do package Wesnoth for Debian, Ubuntu just happens to get that packages too
The package was split because there was tons of people asking for it, i.e., "I only play multiplayer, why am I forced to install every campaign?", "I never play with music, why am I forced to install the music?" and so on. It works great as long as you're aware of the existence of several packages.
The recommended Debian's default software managing tool (aptitude), deals correctly with this, installing by default all recommended packages. apt also warns you about "recommended" packages not being installed, and almost every graphical package management tool also gives you the option of installing recommended packages.
If you are new to Debian/Ubuntu, you should read a bit about your new system and grab some fundamental knowledge, like how package management works, because otherwise, wesnoth won't be the only package that you get installed in a way you don't intend.
Best regards
First of all, I do package Wesnoth for Debian, Ubuntu just happens to get that packages too
The package was split because there was tons of people asking for it, i.e., "I only play multiplayer, why am I forced to install every campaign?", "I never play with music, why am I forced to install the music?" and so on. It works great as long as you're aware of the existence of several packages.
The recommended Debian's default software managing tool (aptitude), deals correctly with this, installing by default all recommended packages. apt also warns you about "recommended" packages not being installed, and almost every graphical package management tool also gives you the option of installing recommended packages.
If you are new to Debian/Ubuntu, you should read a bit about your new system and grab some fundamental knowledge, like how package management works, because otherwise, wesnoth won't be the only package that you get installed in a way you don't intend.
Best regards
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make sure you check the synaptic package manager and search for "wesnoth". that will bring up any packages that might have been left out
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Thank you Huge Nicks! Worked like a charm.
It's amazing how well Wesnoth runs in Linux! It's a different game. Very fast, and all the little glitches and hesitations it has in Windows are gone.
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If you are new to Debian/Ubuntu, you should read a bit about your new system and grab some fundamental knowledge, like how package management works, because otherwise, wesnoth won't be the only package that you get installed in a way you don't intend.
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Well, yes.
The trouble I find with anything Linux is that folks that are proficient in the OS make assumptions that people have knowledge they don't in fact have. Man pages are very cryptic – or at least they are to this Dos dumb a**.
For instance reading Isaacs post made it click for the first time that Debian and Ubuntu are related to each other, so last night I went and found a Debian walk through and I'm studying it now.
I've never found a complete how to for a flavor of Linux from start to finish that covers everything, maybe this will be the one.
I learn a lot on these forums, thank you all who answer our silly questions.
make sure you check the synaptic package manager and search for "wesnoth". that will bring up any packages that might have been left out
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Thank you Huge Nicks!
Worked like a charm.It's amazing how well Wesnoth runs in Linux! It's a different game. Very fast, and all the little glitches and hesitations it has in Windows are gone.
and quote:
If you are new to Debian/Ubuntu, you should read a bit about your new system and grab some fundamental knowledge, like how package management works, because otherwise, wesnoth won't be the only package that you get installed in a way you don't intend.
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Well, yes.
The trouble I find with anything Linux is that folks that are proficient in the OS make assumptions that people have knowledge they don't in fact have. Man pages are very cryptic – or at least they are to this Dos dumb a**.
For instance reading Isaacs post made it click for the first time that Debian and Ubuntu are related to each other, so last night I went and found a Debian walk through and I'm studying it now.
I've never found a complete how to for a flavor of Linux from start to finish that covers everything, maybe this will be the one.
I learn a lot on these forums, thank you all who answer our silly questions.
Just try to find the forums of your distribution. One really major difference between Linux and Windows is that the former has a huge community which will help you. If and only if you ask politely of course and don't react insulted when pointed to existing documentation. You'll have most success when you read documentation yourself anyway. Most of the time you'll also read about thing you don't need right now but at some point in future you'll encounter a problem and remember that you read something about this a while ago...
WesCamp-i18n - Translations for User Campaigns:
http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/WesCamp
Translators for all languages required: contact me. No geek skills required!
http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/WesCamp
Translators for all languages required: contact me. No geek skills required!