Scarier ghosts.

Post by **quartex** » September 18th, 2004, 10:18 pm

As I have stated several times, I like the old shadow. I think it looks cool and have gotten rather attached to it. Especially since Shade uses it as his avatar. But if it has to be changed, I'd rather the replacement look a good as possible.

Post by **turin** » September 18th, 2004, 10:20 pm

quartex wrote:As I have stated several times, I like the old shadow. I think it looks cool and have gotten rather attached to it. Especially since Shade uses it as his avatar. But if it has to be changed, I'd rather the replacement look a good as possible.

no offense, but i was talking about the artists (who are the main people who have input on this).

tigrezno · Post by **tigrezno** » September 18th, 2004, 10:25 pm

IMHO jetryl's shadow have 3 bad things:

1) blurring (look at the neo's shadow/nightaunt, no need to blur to make a different unit)
2) skeleton-like face
3) almost imposible to find in mountains at daylight (don't tried other terrains)

But it looks scarier in the end.

Post by **Neoriceisgood** » September 18th, 2004, 10:28 pm

You mean the cloaked thing? It's nice but unwesnothish; it needs a form of outline to work.

Post by **turin** » September 18th, 2004, 10:29 pm

Neoriceisgood wrote:You mean the cloaked thing? It's nice but unwesnothish; it needs a form of outline to work.

no.... IMHO that is one of the problems with your ghost - you try to outline it, and that makes it look too corporeal.
Is the current wraith outlined? not really. Is it wesnothish? yes. Does it look cool? definitely.

Post by **Neoriceisgood** » September 18th, 2004, 10:32 pm

Actualy the current wraith -has- an outline; it just doesn't need to cover 100% of the sprite (like the baneblade)

Post by **turin** » September 18th, 2004, 10:34 pm

Neoriceisgood wrote:Actualy the current wraith -has- an outline; it just doesn't need to cover 100% of the sprite (like the baneblade)

thus "not really".

and outlines don't have to be black.

Post by **Neoriceisgood** » September 18th, 2004, 10:35 pm

They don't have to be; so why are you saying the wraith has no outline?

Post by **turin** » September 18th, 2004, 10:37 pm

Neoriceisgood wrote:They don't have to be; so why are you saying the wraith has no outline?

i'm saying it doesn't have as much of an outline as your non-shadow does.

tigrezno · Post by **tigrezno** » September 19th, 2004, 2:19 am

Jetryl should redo his shadow, with pixel art, no blurring, no skeleton head, and a little outline to not confuse with terrain. Just wesnoth style.

Post by **turin** » September 19th, 2004, 2:29 am

tigrezno wrote:Jetryl should redo his shadow, with pixel art, no blurring, no skeleton head, and a little outline to not confuse with terrain. Just wesnoth style.

um... it IS pixel art. Being alpha-shaded doesn't mean its not pixel-art.

But i agree with the outline, as long as it leaves the feel of the unit intact

tigrezno · Post by **tigrezno** » September 19th, 2004, 2:41 am

turin wrote:
tigrezno wrote:Jetryl should redo his shadow, with pixel art, no blurring, no skeleton head, and a little outline to not confuse with terrain. Just wesnoth style.
um... it IS pixel art. Being alpha-shaded doesn't mean its not pixel-art.

But i agree with the outline, as long as it leaves the feel of the unit intact

Let Jetryl redo his shadow, and then make a poll or send both to Unit thread started by Dave. Let developers choose what to use.

Post by **Jetrel** » September 19th, 2004, 2:52 am

tigrezno wrote:Jetryl should redo his shadow, with pixel art, no blurring, no skeleton head, and a little outline to not confuse with terrain. Just wesnoth style.

so-called skeleton head was copied from the wraith. zing

tigrezno · Post by **tigrezno** » September 19th, 2004, 3:06 am

Jetryl wrote:
tigrezno wrote:Jetryl should redo his shadow, with pixel art, no blurring, no skeleton head, and a little outline to not confuse with terrain. Just wesnoth style.
so-called skeleton head was copied from the wraith. zing

wraith is not a shadow, they are different paths.

Post by **turin** » September 19th, 2004, 3:10 am

tigrezno wrote:
turin wrote: um... it IS pixel art. Being alpha-shaded doesn't mean its not pixel-art.

But i agree with the outline, as long as it leaves the feel of the unit intact
Let Jetryl redo his shadow, and then make a poll or send both to Unit thread started by Dave. Let developers choose what to use.

Jetryl = art developer.

so he technically can make the choice himself... of course, he can get overruled.