Idea for Far East Faction

[Cuyo Quiz]

Someone feed art to Jetryl. He seems to be lacking his fix today .

[Jetrel]

We may be looking at a new era on Wesnoth here.

One really cool fallout of this work is that we may be able to make a much more realistic fantasy world for our characters to live in. By having multiple cultures of both humans and elves, we can have multiple countries of humans and elves.


For one thing, we'll be able make something of this kingdom to the north, described here:
"In the twenty-seventh year of the reign of Garard II, king of Wesnoth, the kingdom was plunged into a bitter war with the Peoples of the North."

Be sweet to actually see them in-game, and a somewhat polished version of Disto's Marauders might fit the bill.

[Disto]

Now that is rude. For your information he has been. He had trouble getting hold of the friend he was paying so the artist never got the info till around monday. Also the artist is working on a online game elsewhere so there merely a tad late. Merely have some patience man.

For your information, we don't know anything about what's really going on here. All we have is what we've been told. Anyone who's been on the internet for a while knows well enough to equate any post on a webforum with pure dookie, unless the person in question has a history of credible statements. Especially, when the statement regards a rather large amount of work, requiring a stiff baseline of skill.

Not only is it unlikely that some random person is going to be skilled enough to do the job, but it's equally unlikely that they will have the determination to see the job through. We've had dozens of people start work on things and fail to finish them. Hell, I'm starting to wonder if Mr. Lutes is going to finish what he started (though I dearly hope he does, and still lend credence to that).

What I said is easily much less rude than promising to make something, and breaking that promise. Kafka has broken a promise already, but I don't care. Just get something done.


The very least that this person could do is post something of the art up, because the utter lack of that has my BS detectors lighting up like a christmas tree. I hope he is serious, and I hope he really does have something done, but I will believe it only when I see it, and you should be ashamed of your own naiveté for not sharing that outlook.

If people weren't relying on me to do the Marauders i probably wouldn't bother...

[Cuyo Quiz]

"In the twenty-seventh year of the reign of Garard II, king of Wesnoth, the kingdom was plunged into a bitter war with the Peoples of the North."

Hey, that would put Wesnoth in...Australia , no one talked about Australia in those times too...and to the north there could be the Romans, Mideast and Far East.

I think we found the continent of Wesnoth people.

[turin]

Uh, no, Wesnoth is definitely not Australia, because in Wesnoth further north = colder.

[Tippsey]

.....Mmm Jetry; he isn't doing the art he hired smeone to do it. they were paid. I know the person he paid. He can't post anything because the guy he paid has all the work and is making another game. Would you like me to post links so you know that games real. Would that make you quit griping and cool off? Hmph. They'll be done when they guy has them done We gave the guy wesnoth as well so he could study the sprites but not just modify already made units and call it far east.

[Jetrel]

.....Mmm Jetry; he isn't doing the art he hired smeone to do it. they were paid. I know the person he paid. He can't post anything because the guy he paid has all the work and is making another game. Would you like me to post links so you know that games real. Would that make you quit griping and cool off? Hmph. They'll be done when they guy has them done We gave the guy wesnoth as well so he could study the sprites but not just modify already made units and call it far east.

You're not listening, are you?
I'll believe it when I see it, and I sure don't see anything.

It also really cracks me up that you think this is "griping", that you think I'm somehow irritated by this. If anything, I'm happy, because in the off chance you aren't blowing a bunch of smoke and mirrors, you (a pronoun used in the indeterminate sense, as "he" was in the last post) have accomplished a big pile of work that I wouldn't have to do later, were I so inclined.

If not - so what? I wasted all of five minutes typing this - heck, I waste more time watching commercials. Who cares? It's your problem if you don't get it done, not mine, and forgive me for pointing that out. I seem to have pushed the wrong button, eh?

[Tippsey]

Meh seemed like you were angry and pissed that the artist hired has been slow as hell. Which was irritating *shrugs*

[Kafka]

For your information, we don't know anything about what's really going on here. All we have is what we've been told. Anyone who's been on the internet for a while knows well enough to equate any post on a webforum with pure dookie, unless the person in question has a history of credible statements. Especially, when the statement regards a rather large amount of work, requiring a stiff baseline of skill.

Not only is it unlikely that some random person is going to be skilled enough to do the job, but it's equally unlikely that they will have the determination to see the job through. We've had dozens of people start work on things and fail to finish them. Hell, I'm starting to wonder if Mr. Lutes is going to finish what he started (though I dearly hope he does, and still lend credence to that).

What I said is easily much less rude than promising to make something, and breaking that promise. Kafka has broken a promise already, but I don't care. Just get something done.


The very least that this person could do is post something of the art up, because the utter lack of that has my BS detectors lighting up like a christmas tree. I hope he is serious, and I hope he really does have something done, but I will believe it only when I see it, and you should be ashamed of your own naiveté for not sharing that outlook.

If people weren't relying on me to do the Marauders i probably wouldn't bother...

Now, for YOUR information.... WE do know what's going on... and I say we to include Tippsey on that statement. Tippsey has been vouching for me, because he lives about 20 miniutes from my house. He knows me personally.....

Personally, I am disgusted at your blatent discrediting. I haven't broken any promise, and in fact, have had some broken to me. The artwork should have been in a long time ago. No PROMISE had been made, and i've already appologized for my earlier thinking of getting the artwork in sooner.

As for the current situation. I will post all the level 1 sprites on this forum board as soon as they are done. The artist has been very busy developing allunia, his own online rpg game, as well as his old Astonia (another game) V2 server, which he runs. I am afraid i will have to get somebody else to do the level 2 and 3 sprites.

Since i can not show artowrk at this time, i will post all of my revisions and the level 3 units sunday as an attachment word document anyone can download. I hope you didn't forget that I did do all the WORK to make thoses........

Sincerely (Not your or anyone else's bi%$#)

Kafka

[Jetrel]

As for the current situation. I will post all the level 1 sprites on this forum board as soon as they are done. The artist has been very busy developing allunia, his own online rpg game, as well as his old Astonia (another game) V2 server, which he runs.

Astonia looks very nice - if he actually made the thing, I'm quite impressed. (though I'm assuming he just runs a server of the game with his own custom content on it).

I am afraid i will have to get somebody else to do the level 2 and 3 sprites.

Trick is, if you even post part of a project like this on the forums here, especially something so popular as "eastern-styled" units, there's a strong chance that other people will pitch in. People are often scared to start something themselves, but will happily do a ton of work on something that already has momentum.

In fact, if you post just the level-1's, I can say that it is probable that people around these parts might finish the whole darn thing. I may well lend a hand.

[Kafka]

Here are my units, though they are a bit rough. The faction itself, I am afraid it is unbalanced, however, i can't pinpoint the problem. I hope the game developers will help me with that when the time comes (that would be when the sprites are done). Oh, and my friend who does Astonia, he's ran the "Osmera Online/Heroes of Conclave Server" He's upgrading it into a game called "Ruins of...(something or other)." He wasn't the creator, but he's made quite a few sprites himself in the game, and the new game he is turning it into is going to be the same game, only like a century advanced.... So he's busy on that. In addition, he's trying to start another game, so that's why he's turning the artowork back to me after he gets the level 1s done. He has 4 of em done, but he still needs to send them to me so i can post them.

[Kafka]

sorry, the two links in previous post don't work. It was a .doc, which wan't accepted, and i had troupble converting it right away. I had to shut down due to a thunderstrorm, so here is the real document

[Kafka]

ok, ok, here's the deal...

bad news: i got addicted to WOW, and stopped working on this, my appologies

worse news: the whole artist thing fell through. He's done good work, but three units aren't gonna mean crap. I'm not going to bother posting them, even though i support their quality

good news: i didn't lose any money

better news: now that the units are made, i'm looking for a new artist. I really can't pay you, but if you can make the units, dude, i won't complain and you can make them the way you want, fitting the descriptions. I will help if you want, but if you get them done... props.

Best news: i'm gonna start a post seperately to get this developed by people who know what they are doing, and i will not fade into WOW addiction.

Thanks again from the b@$t*() who is nobodies bi%$@

Kafka S. Dragonheart

[Breeblebox]

I'm not going to bother posting them, even though i support their quality

Dude, you gotta post them, if for no other reason than vindication.

[Disto]

If you expect to get a artist your going to need to post them. You've got something like 18 different units to be drawn and animated, you've got the base for 3 so... you've got 15 base images, and say and average of seven for a fully animated blade hand-to-hand combat warrior should have 7-8 frames, giving you a minimum of 126 animation images, assuming you have no range or spear etc which need directional, you could be looking at 200 animation frames some poor guy needs to volunteer for.