Djinns

[holypaladin]

Change jinns trait from "elemental" to "jinn" "djinn" or "genie"

[Lord-Knightmare]

We duplicate the same trait in three terms: undead/mechanical/elemental

I hardly see any value in doing this a 4th time.

[holypaladin]

I understand the problem and also thought about this aspect. I would still prefer that our users not be misled by confusing jinns with elementals.

[gnombat]

I would still prefer that our users not be misled by confusing jinns with elementals.

Why does this matter?

In other games djinn are explicitly classified as elementals.

https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Djinni

[Duke_Anax]

Djinn is fairly generic, like fae, troll, or yokai. And many of them are elemental spirits, specifically the ones in Wenoth.

[holypaladin]

I would still prefer that our users not be misled by confusing jinns with elementals.

Why does this matter?

In other games djinn are explicitly classified as elementals.

https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Djinni

You know, elemental is rather just animated part of unliving nature. Djinn is reasonable creature.

[Duke_Anax]

Who says elementals can't be reasonable?

[Duke_Anax]

We duplicate the same trait in three terms: undead/mechanical/elemental

That's a good point, should there be some variation between the three?

[Lord-Knightmare]

We duplicate the same trait in three terms: undead/mechanical/elemental

That's a good point, should there be some variation between the three?

Given the balance implications being major (affecting most of mainline and a significant number of UMC using the traits), I doubt refactoring of existing traits should be executed.

[holypaladin]

Who says elementals can't be reasonable?

I didn't seen any fire guardians or mudcrawlers that would have reason. The same when it goes to elementals from add-ons.