A Song of the Winds (prequel to The Dragon Trilogy, SP Campaign for 1.14 & 1.15)

[Lord-Knightmare]

I'm at "the final age", up to this point I've managed to get around the problem by not ending up as Sekmet, but at this point it's impossible, and the next scenario without Hathor isn't playable, then I'm stuck and really hooked on the story, and I can't see the end!

Never confront the Asuri thingy before the Windsong puzzle part is done. Otherwise it will break.

[ursine]

I also have a problem in Convergence with not getting Hathor nor Abhai. Really unfortunate because I really like this campaign...

[Eric143]

I'm playing again this campaign in 1.16 (and hard) - thank you for porting it on this version, by the way!

I will refer to the bugs I found previously (viewtopic.php?p=670900#p670900) and use spoilers. I'm currently at scenario 27.

Spoiler:

Lady Sunna is Fearless and Neutral. Shouldn't she be Lawful?

Kingu is referred as she/her instead of he/his after/from scenario 12 - Storm's Landfall.

It seems there's a bug with the musics. Some of them are somehow absent of the campaign when downloaded - I copy/paste the ATS_music dossier from my 1.14 to my 1.16 versions and it worked just fine.

In scenario 4 - Tempest: the objective "defeat Lanthal with Maat" didn't disappear after I completed it. I did have the two loyal Elves, though (I completed both sub-objectives). Nothing really big, here.

In scenario 10 - Valley of Shadow: the end triggered normally, yay!

Scenario 13 - The High Kalian of Hiera Shirsha: my recall list is not reduced to the eight Windsongs (and the loyal Elves) => I found the bug! Just edit the .cfg file and modify the store_unit filter (at the end of the file) :
- add missing units ("Warmonger", "Oathkeeper" and "Heretic") to the list;
- modify "Weaver" and "Herald" to "Weaver_ASotW" and "Herald_ASotW".

In scenario 17 - Sparks to the Winds: Deimon is way too easy to kill: just trigger the event by having a unit moving close to the central keep, and just send Hathor in Sekhmet mode or some strong units. Job's done. I have the feeling Deimon could appear with some guards, to avoid this. Or maybe boost the Ashen Dragon stats? It should be a formidable opponent (I killed it with 3 units: a Dwarf Lord, a Dreadnought and Hathor without Sekhmet).

In scenario 25 - Savannah Winds: during this playthrough, the amulet appeared at turn 4-6 near my keep. I didn't have to do the subquest for it. Couldn't find in the .cfg file the reason of this bug...
The amulet could even be taken before it appears. Just move a unit to the hexe, and this will trigger the "take or leave" dialog. Strange. Maybe it's because the variable count is not set back to 0 after doing the subquest? I did normally the subquest during my first playthrough on 1.14 and trigger normally the appearance of the amulet. Maybe the variable stays on 2? I hope I'm understandable.
I'll attach my save file.

In scenario 26 - Beyond the Horizon: during my old playthrough, there was a Djinn leader with Djinns and Elemental Birds to fight. Now, this leader does not appear... the bug is not on the .cfg file (the leader is noted). Maybe the keep is no longer in the map?
I'll attach my save file.

I hope this will help.

Thank you again for this campaign!

[MTF_alfa_158]

Alas,im here to declare my frustration again. Don't get me wrong,his campaings are nice,very well written with a deep intriguing lore that makes you want to play more and more,but they're broken. I haven't played the dragon saga yet,decided to start with the prequel first,and just like soldier of wesnoth where a certain character doesn't trigger an event and you can't keep playing because well,it will make no sense,since he won't the present on future maps. I could have fixed it myself,but i don't know how to mess around with coding so yeah,had to abandon it. Now,song of the winds has something similar,but easily fixed with debug. On the scenario valley of shadows,after you defeat every enemy well,the scenario don't end. I turned debug on and fog off,waited for the daytime cause some enemy's were nightstalkers,created another enemy,killed it,waited a few more turns,and nothing. Luckily,you can use debug to skip to the next scenario with the "N" command. Still,it sucks,since we can very well find similar bugs in the future parts of the campaing and on his other campaigns and be stuck for not knowing how to mess around coding so yeah,pretty lame,if that happen's you won't know the ending. (For any gramatical error,i apologize,im brazilian)

[Konrad2]

Alas,im here to declare my frustration again. Don't get me wrong,his campaings are nice,very well written with a deep intriguing lore that makes you want to play more and more,but they're broken. I haven't played the dragon saga yet,decided to start with the prequel first,and just like soldier of wesnoth where a certain character doesn't trigger an event and you can't keep playing because well,it will make no sense,since he won't the present on future maps. I could have fixed it myself,but i don't know how to mess around with coding so yeah,had to abandon it. Now,song of the winds has something similar,but easily fixed with debug. On the scenario valley of shadows,after you defeat every enemy well,the scenario don't end. I turned debug on and fog off,waited for the daytime cause some enemy's were nightstalkers,created another enemy,killed it,waited a few more turns,and nothing. Luckily,you can use debug to skip to the next scenario with the "N" command. Still,it sucks,since we can very well find similar bugs in the future parts of the campaing and on his other campaigns and be stuck for not knowing how to mess around coding so yeah,pretty lame,if that happen's you won't know the ending. (For any gramatical error,i apologize,im brazilian)

Didn't I literally reply to you, giving you a way to fix that bug in Soldier of Wesnoth?
For A Song of the Winds you need to be play on 1.16, as 1.14 hasn't been supported for years.

[Eric143]

I report another little bug and a way to correct it.

Spoiler:

Secnario 31 - Herald to the Winds: Abhai still has access to Librarian, Farstrider and Weaver in Recall or Recruit list. Just modify the .cfg files to prevent this by adding them in the correct "non" recruit/recall lists.

Maybe the whole .cfg files are to be read again and correct "Weaver ASotW" in "Weaver_ASotW"?

[Sprintes]

I can't get past the dark of the sun scenario

[Imigollets]

I found a bug playing today on the map Island of the Sun.

Hathor did not appear at the begining of the map. And after the dialogue with the King, I couldn't leave the room and the game show me the error:

[unstore_unit]: variable 'hathy_swim_stored' doesn't exist

Campaing Version: 1.0.4.13
Wesnoth Version: 1.16.10 x86_64

[astthark]

any chance we get another amazing campaing or may be another outstanding trilogy? man i played your trilogy about 10 times, it is the best trilogy every in wesnoth, not ever one other campaign aproachs the level of your trilogy, tx of the botton of my heart for the excelent work, and please one more, or 3 more

[Danelo]

I have a question, I started playing this campaign and I really liked it, I'm going through the mission Dark Part of the Sun 1 and here comes the question
Is it normal that Hathor and Deinara do not return to their normal skin? I mean they never take their weapons and armor again, they stay in their swimsuits, is this normal? Because I don't think it's very smart to assault an elf fort without weapons xd

[Konrad2]

At long last, back to this.

Storm's Landfall
not in opposing -> not on opposing

The High Kalian (and so on)
I'm supposed to pick 8 of my veterans, and it's said that I'll be losing access to those I don't. In the following scenarios I noticed that I kept my Heralds, Rune Forgers, and my Farstrider anyway. (Those are all lvl 3 units, but not all the lvl3 units I left behind.)

Ssyuriss Fen
Objectives don't update after completing the alternative objective.
Viriathus needs a silver crown.

Sparks to the Winds
not in those -> not on these
One of the enemy leaders is 'Varkan Ohn'. Which hapens to be the same enemy leader from the previous scenario, who was 100% killed. Rename them?

The scenario ends before the boss fight if all enemy leaders on the map have been defeated. I think it should instead trigger the boss fight or the scenario should simply not be over.

Lua bug after defeating the enemy boss:

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error scripting/lua: lua/wml-tags.lua:796: bad argument #1 to 'on_board' (location expected, got string)
stack traceback:
	[C]: in method 'on_board'
	lua/wml-tags.lua:796: in local 'cmd'
	lua/wml-utils.lua:144: in field 'handle_event_commands'
	lua/wml-flow.lua:19: in local 'cmd'
	lua/wml-utils.lua:144: in field 'handle_event_commands'
	lua/wml-flow.lua:5: in function <lua/wml-flow.lua:4>

shall be excellent allies" -> shall be excellent allies."

There is a bonus objective of freeing all slaves, and some of them joining your team. Due to the race tag of the merfolk being 'merman' instead, all my potential merfolk allies are removed instead of added to my side.

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[kill]
                                side=6
                                [not]
                                    race=merfolk   #should be merman or it won't work
                                [/not]
                            [/kill]

Gamebreaking bug:
Hathor disappears at the end of 'Sparks to the Winds', which obviously very much breaks the game. It's probably a bug with unstoring Hathor if you win a scenario while she is transformed. On the other hand, that sort of makes it worse, as that's something that can happen in every scenario.

Dark of the Sun, part II
Sunna needs a silver crown.

Nightfall
You can get an Elvish Ranger. It should be an Elvish Sun Ranger instead.
Fun fact: It is an Elvish Sun Ranger, but this unit is called an Elvish Ranger for no reason I can discern.

Savannah Winds
Something about the ruin investigation event doesn't work. It automatically completes on turn 3.

At the Crossroads of Time and Space
theHeretic -> the Heretic

The alternative objectives replace each other when they become available instead of being added to the list of objectives.

The Weaving Hall objective doesn't work, the runes glow and all that, the units talk, but it doesn't seem to affect any teleporters.
Another problem with the Weaving Hall is that it calls for Arbiter/Librarians, but Librarians don't work. (Apparently there are two variations of Librarians, the normal one (which you have in this campaign), and the 'Windsong Librarian'. The objective works with the Arbiter (of which there is only one version) and the 'Windsong Librarian', which you do not have.)

Item: Bow of Neith -> A problem I only noticed way too late, if the unit carrying this item levels into a unit with a weapon special on their bow, the item is removed. Same thing when the item is given to a unit with a weapon special on their bow.

Herald of the Winds
Abhai has still access to his Farstrider and Librarian units. (Windsongs)

Fields of Fire
I suddenly can recruit Windsong again (that should not be the case).

Fields of Fire

Happens when the reinforcements arrive. I can properly recall them though.

Convergence
It looks like Maat has duplicate attacks, likely something about trying to carry over her old attacks to her new unit type?
Also, same kind of bug for Maats recalls as for the Windsong recalls in Fields of Fire. Recalls are there though.

Falling Heavens
Vercyn -> Aryon
(There is no Vercyn in this scenario, and Aryon, a relevant unit, is not listed in the defeat conditions.)

I finished the campaign.
Overall, sometimes recruit or recall lists were not properly seperated according to the leaders.

Time to get back to the War of the Jewel.

[shevegen]

I recently tested this but gave up on the first map.

I also tested two other add-ons, which were worse than this here quality-wise. So,
from the artwork as well as overall map-design, I think the add-on is actually good.

The units we can have are quite decent too; it reminds me of those two older
arabian-night campaigns. Some art seems to be re-used. One is a healer unit
which is nice.

Why did I not continue past the first scenario?

Well - the old problem resurfaced here aka I can not control the allied heroes
or units, and they basically just suicide (or stand still, waiting to be sniped off
by an enemy swarm). I did not have enough units to protect the whole map and
also two stupid allies (heroes and elves) who suicide-run against enemy poison
units. So the whole army then has poison, as a consequence low
hp, and suddenly the allied leaders are swarmed and surrounded by those
sword wielding strong units as all their bodyguard units juts died.

I think maps where we have to control AI-controlled allied units who do stupid
things, are not good. A better situation would be if these allied idiots were allowed
to die. This can have negative repercussions, of course, but won't mean insta-loss.
And I just can not want to be bothered to control my own units, but also control the
map in a way to draw aggro from the enemies, so they don't attack those allied
idiots. I would have actually won the first scenario quite easily, if it would have
just then been those enemy units, but instead the add-on forces me to care about
the allied leaders who are just too stupid to survive, and
I can not want to be bothered to help stupid. My recommendation would be to
somewhat change that, e. g. make them smarter, or not a lose condition. And, by
the way, this also reveals an AI problem in that often those units do not try to
preserve their own survival, but suicide-run against enemy units. For instance,
one of those poison serpents occupied a city in the center, and what did the
dwarves do? They suicided onto that poison unit in the city. Of course they did not
deal enough damage, and they all ended up being poisoned and killed within
two turns, and they did not even manage to free the occupied city. So this is
really a problem with the whole AI model - it is just not flexible enough. The
agenda to free occupied cities seem to not consider how much return damage
they take. I've noticed this behaviour in regards to poison more frequently lately
by the way; in the prior other campaign with naga poison units.

[elduendeoscuro]

I just finished the campaign, it has become my favorite Wesnoth campaign. And that depth you've given to Mat's character is going to make me have to replay the first part of the trilogy to see her again.

[lhybrideur]

I have a question, I started playing this campaign and I really liked it, I'm going through the mission Dark Part of the Sun 1 and here comes the question
Is it normal that Hathor and Deinara do not return to their normal skin? I mean they never take their weapons and armor again, they stay in their swimsuits, is this normal? Because I don't think it's very smart to assault an elf fort without weapons xd

I don't have this problem when I play.
Their stats should have been restored at the end of scenario 18. Can you please upload the replay of scenario 18, that I check what goes wrong?
In the meantime, you can try replacing the scenario file by this one, see if it changes anything.

[lhybrideur]

Thank you very much for the review.
Some points you noticed entice me to say the version you played was not the latest version, but most of them are still relevant in the latest one.

Storm's Landfall
not in opposing -> not on opposing

The High Kalian (and so on)
I'm supposed to pick 8 of my veterans, and it's said that I'll be losing access to those I don't. In the following scenarios I noticed that I kept my Heralds, Rune Forgers, and my Farstrider anyway. (Those are all lvl 3 units, but not all the lvl3 units I left behind.)

Fixed. Some unit_type were forgotten from the list of removed units.

Ssyuriss Fen
Objectives don't update after completing the alternative objective.
Viriathus needs a silver crown.

Sparks to the Winds
not in those -> not on these

Fixed

One of the enemy leaders is 'Varkan Ohn'. Which hapens to be the same enemy leader from the previous scenario, who was 100% killed. Rename them?

I am waiting for revansurik's answer for that one.

The scenario ends before the boss fight if all enemy leaders on the map have been defeated. I think it should instead trigger the boss fight or the scenario should simply not be over.

I added an event (and hopefully no bug) for that.

Lua bug after defeating the enemy boss:

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error scripting/lua: lua/wml-tags.lua:796: bad argument #1 to 'on_board' (location expected, got string)
stack traceback:
	[C]: in method 'on_board'
	lua/wml-tags.lua:796: in local 'cmd'
	lua/wml-utils.lua:144: in field 'handle_event_commands'
	lua/wml-flow.lua:19: in local 'cmd'
	lua/wml-utils.lua:144: in field 'handle_event_commands'
	lua/wml-flow.lua:5: in function <lua/wml-flow.lua:4>

Gamebreaking bug:
Hathor disappears at the end of 'Sparks to the Winds', which obviously very much breaks the game. It's probably a bug with unstoring Hathor if you win a scenario while she is transformed. On the other hand, that sort of makes it worse, as that's something that can happen in every scenario.

Those two are the same. Sekmet location was badly registered (how???) so it was preventing it from transforming back to Hathor. It should be fixed now.

shall be excellent allies" -> shall be excellent allies."

There is a bonus objective of freeing all slaves, and some of them joining your team. Due to the race tag of the merfolk being 'merman' instead, all my potential merfolk allies are removed instead of added to my side.

Code: Select all

[kill]
                                side=6
                                [not]
                                    race=merfolk   #should be merman or it won't work
                                [/not]
                            [/kill]

Dark of the Sun, part II
Sunna needs a silver crown.

Fixed

Nightfall
You can get an Elvish Ranger. It should be an Elvish Sun Ranger instead.
Fun fact: It is an Elvish Sun Ranger, but this unit is called an Elvish Ranger for no reason I can discern.

No idea

Savannah Winds
Something about the ruin investigation event doesn't work. It automatically completes on turn 3.

Fixed already in the lasted version

At the Crossroads of Time and Space
theHeretic -> the Heretic

The alternative objectives replace each other when they become available instead of being added to the list of objectives.

Fixed

The Weaving Hall objective doesn't work, the runes glow and all that, the units talk, but it doesn't seem to affect any teleporters.
Another problem with the Weaving Hall is that it calls for Arbiter/Librarians, but Librarians don't work. (Apparently there are two variations of Librarians, the normal one (which you have in this campaign), and the 'Windsong Librarian'. The objective works with the Arbiter (of which there is only one version) and the 'Windsong Librarian', which you do not have.)

Item: Bow of Neith -> A problem I only noticed way too late, if the unit carrying this item levels into a unit with a weapon special on their bow, the item is removed. Same thing when the item is given to a unit with a weapon special on their bow.

Should already be fixed in the latest version

Herald of the Winds
Abhai has still access to his Farstrider and Librarian units. (Windsongs)

Fields of Fire
I suddenly can recruit Windsong again (that should not be the case).

Fields of Fire
windsongvet.PNG
Happens when the reinforcements arrive. I can properly recall them though.

Convergence
It looks like Maat has duplicate attacks, likely something about trying to carry over her old attacks to her new unit type?
Also, same kind of bug for Maats recalls as for the Windsong recalls in Fields of Fire. Recalls are there though.

Should already be fixed in the latest version. Recalls errors should already be fixed since the release of 1.18 version???

Falling Heavens
Vercyn -> Aryon
(There is no Vercyn in this scenario, and Aryon, a relevant unit, is not listed in the defeat conditions.)

Fixed

I am waiting for revansurik's answer on Varkan Ohn and we will then publish the updated version.