Legend of the Invincibles

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Error trying to load chapter 9 in version 1.11.0

[jeffgreen]

Identical error on trying to load chapter 9 in version 1.10

So for now I'll just check the text in the config files. (I'll edit this as I go along)

Spoiler:

01_Transporting_Facility
"After that their children grew up, a new thread arose.

Should be threat

"the number of experiments the demonologists performed caused the barrier that was keeping creatures of Inferno locked up cracked and the demons built a portal away from there."

to crack

"so it was necessary to close the portal before too many of them arrive"
arrived

"Efraim, Lethalia and a part of their soldiers entered the portal"
"a few of" or "some of"

It gets more difficult now - I feel I might be impinging on the image you wish to create - but anyway
"They appeared in Inferno. They begun to feel how terrible that place was, poisonous air, strong heat, black clouds covering a red fire on the sky, blackened stones instead of any kind of soil everywhere. But the thing that shocked them the most was the uniformity of the army of demons awaiting them. They realised they were a mere illusion. There was just a very few demons, the others probably entered the portal to fend them off before they entered the portal."
began
the
I prefer intense heat to strong heat
the red fire of the sky or the red fire in the sky The first would imply that the sky was all fire the latter a more isolated fire.
were
"This will be fairly easy. There is a single demon guarding the energy source dueling the portal. Just one spell that will blast the area half minute after being cast, and we are safely at home."

fueling

speaker=Efraim
message= _ "We will figure something out. Maybe Vritra and Krux will find a demonologist and force him to summon us. We might also try to extinct the demons. But we should focus on finding a way back. There must be one."

vanquish

[Dugi]

Shame on me, I decided to make a really petty change somewhere just before uploading and forgot to check it. I forgot to add one quotation mark and you see the result. I had bad luck as my text editor did not notice it because it was in brackets. Fixed.

@jeffgreen Thanks for the corrections, I added these changes to the version I uploaded now. When checking the grammar (dammit, how could I leave unnoticed 'dueling' instead of 'fueling'?), can you please check also the dialogues in the utils/chapter9_utils.cfg file? Most chapter 9 dialogues are there.

[jeffgreen]

utils/chapter9_utils.cfg

Spoiler:

speaker=Efraim
message= _ "Another seal is broken! We are on a halfway to Pandemonium and we are still standing. You must start believing we will get out if here once."

out of here (once what?)

[message]
speaker=Efraim
message= _ "We have done a great progress. Uria is no longer hidden from us. Are you starting to believe in our survival?"

made


speaker=Lethalia
message= _ "Uria wants to instill strife into our ranks. I have no idea what secret was she talking about, and because of it, I cannot tell you that secret without lying that you probably would notice. This would create an impression that I am lying to everybody, and I would be unable to defend myself."
I don't know if this relates to the next line so I'm leaving it alone for the moment

..................

speaker=Efraim
message=_"I have speculated that we might also release them from their curse. We cannot help it just ourselves, but with some cooperation from its side, usually requiring mustering enough mental force to weaken its bonds. It should be a really strong emotion, and that might require it to kill or harm people who want to help them, as they cannot lose anything themselves and they feel no happiness, so I think that we are not very likely to free a significant part of them."
by ourselves number of them There's some possible confusion between "it" (singular) and "their/them/they" (plural).


So (Is it easier if I redo the message so that you can cut and paste rather than edit?)
message=_"I have speculated that we might also release them from their curse. We cannot help them by ourselves, but with some cooperation from their side, usually requiring mustering enough mental force to weaken their bonds. It should be a really strong emotion, and that might require them to kill or harm people who want to help them, as they cannot lose anything themselves and they feel no happiness, so I think that we are not very likely to free a significant number of them."

speaker=second_unit
message= _ "I shall never tell anything to you. You deserve becoming Burning Souls. It will happen that imps and hellhounds will tear your flesh..."
"I shall never tell you anything. You deserve to become Burning Souls. "

"It will happen that " sounds like a prophecy - if it's inteded to then "It shall come to pass" is perhaps a more traditional phrase. If it's intended as a threat then you can lose the phrase entirely going with "The imps and hellhounds will tear your flesh..." Again if it's meant to be a prophecy then perhaps use render rather than tear.


speaker=second_unit
message= _ "Argh, what the hell are you doing? What dreadful force could have learned you that?"

What dreadful force could have taught you that? (Actually, locally many people would say learned - but I think you'd need more dialogue to create a character for it to be correct.)

[message]
speaker=second_unit
message= _ "You are longing to learn that, heh? What a luck that you will never learn."

"You are longing to learn that, heh? What bad luck that you will never learn it."
speaker=Lethalia
message= _ "I will teach you to stop mocking. If we need information, you will provided, since you obviously know it. And it is also <i>your</i> intention to make us leave Inferno, because the sooner we leave, the less havoc we will cause here."

"I will teach you to stop mocking. If we need information, you will provide, since you obviously know it. And it is also <i>your</i> intention to make us leave Inferno, because the sooner we leave, the less havoc we will cause here."

# I just changed provided to provide

speaker=second_unit
message= _ "You are not getting it right. You are a prey, a trophy. The power of your souls is priceless, and most demons are dying to kill and enslave you. Do you know why we never united and that let you go this far? Because everybody wanted to get you first. It is only our rivalry that is keeping you alive. And so I never intended to help you live our stinky home. Heh heh."

"You are not getting it right. You are a prey, a trophy. The power of your souls is priceless, and most demons are dying to kill and enslave you. Do you know why we never united and that let you go this far? Because everybody wanted to get you first. It is only our rivalry that is keeping you alive. And so I never intended to help you leave our stinky home. Heh heh."

# live changed to leave

speaker=Lethalia
message= _ "He cannot make himself indisturbable?"

# Lots of thinking/typing aloud
I at first thought that it ought to be undisturbable (cannot be disturbed ) rather than indisturbable (not open to question -which I had to look up) however I like indisturbable now that I know what it means. More common words would be indisputable or infallable but they don't follow on from avoiding disturbance (but neither does indisturbable) - which is why "He cannot make himself indisturbable" is such a very clever play on words. It isn't a logical progression from being protected from disturbance though.

so perhaps change disturbance in the previous line
speaker=second_unit
message= _ "No. No. He was never sealed, he was just pretending it, this seal was rather perfectly protecting him from disturbance."

"No. No. He was never sealed, he was just pretending to be, this seal was protecting him from ???????."

#"rather perfectly" I don't like it rather perfectly it means not quite perfectly not sure about "protecting" it implies a need for protection and fallibility (should it?)

"No. No. He was never sealed, he was just pretending to be. Rather the seal was sheltering/insulating/defending/shielding him from hinderance/distraction/interruption."

Anyway after much thought and several cups of coffee. I like the less than logical wordplay

so
speaker=second_unit
message= _ "No. No. He was never sealed, he was just pretending to be. Rather the seal was shielding him from disturbance."

and leave Lethia's line alone

speaker=Lethalia
message= _ "He cannot make himself indisturbable?"

[jeffgreen]

02_Tunnels_of_Cruelty

Spoiler:

speaker=Lethalia
message= _ "How could you even survive? We have blasted you with energy until nothing remained from you!"

"How could you even survive? We blasted you with energy until nothing remained of you!"

speaker=Lethalia_evil
message= _ "Almost all the souls bled out from me. Only several of them, those with the strongest will to stay inside survive. And I was completely out of my power. I was too weak to fight you, so I fled with no idea what would I do without all my power. But I was not dead. After some time, my wounds recovered. I was merely a powerful spirit, without any material presence. But I was still capable of possessing the weak. I have found a young noble lady, known to be beautiful but stupid. Very stupid."

"Almost all the souls bled out from me. Only several of them, those with the strongest will to stay inside survived. And I was completely out of my power. I was too weak to fight you, so I fled with no idea what I would do without my power. But I was not dead. After some time, my wounds recovered. I was merely a powerful spirit, without any material presence. But I was still capable of possessing the weak. I have found a young noble lady, known to be beautiful but stupid. Very stupid."
#survive changed to survived "all" removed before my power

speaker=Lethalia_evil
message= _ " My knowledge of magic was making me strong, but not enough. I travelled into a huge city, named Krapul. There was really a lot of criminals, like in every big city. A lot of people who deserved being fed on. I was cold blooded, used to live in the north and the weather in Krapul was hot, so with the clothing I had on me, all I needed to find them was to wander the streets at night. Every attempt for a gang rape resulted in a mayhem nobody survived. Rapes stopped, because everybody knew what was happening to rapists, but nobody knew who was behind it."

" My knowledge of magic was making me strong, but not enough. I travelled into a huge city, named Krapul. There was really a lot of criminals, like in every big city. A lot of people who deserved being fed on. I was cold blooded, used to life in the north and the weather in Krapul was hot, so with the clothing I had on me, all I needed to find them was to wander the streets at night. Every attempt for a gang rape resulted in a mayhem nobody survived. Rapes stopped, because everybody knew what was happening to rapists, but nobody knew who was behind it."
# live changed to life


speaker=Lethalia_evil
message= _ "Suggest a reason why should I ally myself with them. A stronger demon is an overwhelming force to me. I can defeat demons only with minions or by stealth or using some trickery, my power has decreased greatly when you defeated me."

"Suggest a reason why should I ally myself with them. A stronger demon is an overwhelming force to me. I can defeat demons only with minions or by stealth or using some trickery, my power decreased greatly when you defeated me."
# removed had before decreased greatly alternative would be
my power has decreased greatly since you defeated me.

speaker=Lethalia
message= _ "She want the demonic power to have it in addition to the standard power she had and will be restored, and that would assure that nobody will be able to face her during her rise to power in our world."

# I don't understand this line. If you mean that Lethalia_evil whats the demonic power in addition to her own restored powers. Then
"She wants to have the demonic power in addition to her old powers restored, and that would assure that nobody will be able to face her during her rise to power in our world."

speaker=Lethalia
message= _ "The portal has been closed. But it was a demon who closed it when he was sure he has no hope to prevent us from closing it, and we are stuck here because of him."

"The portal has been closed. But it was a demon who closed it when he was sure he had no hope of preventing us from closing it, and we are stuck here because of him."
# just corrected some tenses

speaker=Lethalia_evil
message= _ "Why do you think I am the worst evil you can imagine? I am just a necromancer, like you were are you still are. Maybe I seek conquest, but you sought that too before you were brought to life by the ashes of phoenix. I was reincarnated, so I am alive too, just like you now. I might not be so noble like you, I might behave like a dreadful necromancer, but remember that even necromancers are fighting the demons."

"Why do you think I am the worst evil you can imagine? I am just a necromancer, like you were are you still are. Maybe I seek conquest, but you sought that too before you were brought to life by the ashes of phoenix. I was reincarnated, so I am alive too, just like you now. I might not be as noble as you, I might behave like a dreadful necromancer, but remember that even necromancers are fighting the demons."

# changed "so noble like" to "as noble as"


speaker=Lethalia
message= _ "The demons are no longer a thread to our world. Maybe Uria promised you a return to our world for spying us."

"The demons are no longer a threat to our world. Maybe Uria promised you a return to our world for spying on us."

# Changed "thread" to "threat" and "spying us" to "spying on us"

[jeffgreen]

I get this message (Had to finish the upgrades to Efraim before I could get a clear view)

[Dugi]

Thanks for the text corrections.
Thanks for the bug report (dammit, another dumb mistake, Death Lord instead of Deathlord), I fixed it. Note that it does not appear if you continue from chapter 8 or earlier, and it does not always appear even if you don't.

[jeffgreen]

Note that it does not appear if you continue from chapter 8 or earlier, and it does not always appear even if you don't.

FYI I continued on easy after finishing on medium.

[jeffgreen]

From start scenario in Chapter 9 I go into the tunnels of cruelty, return via the transporter unit and my storage list has been restored. i.e. Items I've already equipped soldiers with are back in storage (and still on the soldiers I've equipped them with)

[Dugi]

It happened because of the error you reported before, lua error game error: unknown unit type blablabla. It should not happen again if you have updated it.

[gfgtdf]

it's not a serious problem and not related to chapter 9 but if a unit advances and loses an attack (for example Gryphon Rider (loses sword) or Lich from the Tome of liches book) the unit has still the weapon (would be better is the unit dropps the waepon i think).

the Shadow rince has an advancemewnt "better at fencing" wich ingreases the block rate, i think "better at fencing" is not a good description.

Pretador can get better execution amla before the execution amla

[Battlecruiser_Venca]

BUG: Pilum Master doesn't get benefits from spears when he levels up

EDIT: concretized the case when the bug appears

[Dugi]

@gfgtdf Dropping the item when he becomes unable to use it is not the most comfortable way to do it. But without it, it leads to easy exploits. I think that it would be better if it was scripted for these rare occasions that these items are moved into the storage.

Shadow Princes' defence increasing description is vague, that is right, I will fix it.

I will fix the predator's AMLA requirements mess.

@Batlecruiser_Venca I am not quite sure what did you mean. The advancement window might not properly show the changes done, but his melee attack advancements should be correct.

[Silux]

chapter 2 feedback
The war against Lilith minions was epic most of the time.
Units keep to get powerful and more powerful until i can literally trust to sent them alone without any fear.
Lethalia grew very powerful, more than Efraim, as i usually kept him on the keep to recruit.
The dragon was really useful against these crazy powered elves.
Most useful trinkets were the ones who boost hp and movement.
I laughed at the events that referenced other campaigns, as the two sun's profecy:D
Sometimes i found that the gold macro didn't work and i added the gold written myself.
The gold amount was good enough most of the time to provide a challenge.
I tried some times to defeat the Endless Legion by the hard way, but at the end i used some fresh elves to shield just the heroes and finish.It was maybe the best tactical challenge after Ascension.
Lilith was really dangerous!
The plot is more linear than the first chapter, but the revelations at the end of the Lilith battle were stunning o.o

Ch 3
The loyal recruits are really a good idea!
I wish i could have those recruits before^^
Make the new recruit to gain experience is really hard.
Playing it right now

[Dugi]

Well, I am glad you liked it.
Thanks for feedback. A few notes about the things you've said:
Lethalia was more powerful there because she has arcane damage that was quite useful there.
The references to other campaigns were not just references to other campaigns, you shall learn that soon.
Gold macro didn't work? Do you mean that you found a pile of gold and it did not give gold to you?
Did you have the version where Lilith had the meteoric swarms or it is not published yet?
Each chapter is different, so it was quite intentional that one chapter is more linear, one is less linear, one is about defeating enemies, one is about the progression of heroes etc.