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How does one make a reduceable *object* which sticks ...
How does one make a reduce-able(able to *lose*) *object* which sticks to a unit, and was there since the unit was created?
You see, I am making a unit with 3 wishes, and I want it so that the unit has only 3 wishes, that most of the wishes apply to the leader only (like recruits, buffs, weapons etc.), and when the unit has used up the 3 wishes, it dies, unless one of those wishes were used to make the *wisher* a different unit, say Mystic Jinn.
So, what I want is on appearance of unit, that unit has 3 *objects* which, if by chance a second of that unit was made, that one would have 3 *objects* which wouldn't combine to make 6, and which are *stuck* to the unit even when it switches sides, but can be *lost* on *buying* something from the *wishing store*
You see, I am making a unit with 3 wishes, and I want it so that the unit has only 3 wishes, that most of the wishes apply to the leader only (like recruits, buffs, weapons etc.), and when the unit has used up the 3 wishes, it dies, unless one of those wishes were used to make the *wisher* a different unit, say Mystic Jinn.
So, what I want is on appearance of unit, that unit has 3 *objects* which, if by chance a second of that unit was made, that one would have 3 *objects* which wouldn't combine to make 6, and which are *stuck* to the unit even when it switches sides, but can be *lost* on *buying* something from the *wishing store*
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Re: How does one make a reduceable *object* which sticks ...
Oh, and I am on Wesnoth v. 1.4 Ubuntu
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Re: How does one make a reduceable *object* which sticks ...
Haha, what?Col Lightbeam wrote:Oh, and I am on Wesnoth v. 1.4 Ubuntu
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Re: How does one make a reduceable *object* which sticks ...
Get 1.8. It's MUCH better than 1.4.Ken_Oh wrote:Haha, what?Col Lightbeam wrote:Oh, and I am on Wesnoth v. 1.4 Ubuntu
And don't double post please. It's a bad habit; just edit your post next time.
Re: How does one make a reduceable *object* which sticks ...
Ken_Oh wrote:Haha, what?Col Lightbeam wrote:Oh, and I am on Wesnoth v. 1.4 Ubuntu

Is that pushing it a bit?
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The Southern Chains, a fanfic
“The difference between winners and champions is that champions are more consistent."
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The Southern Chains, a fanfic
“The difference between winners and champions is that champions are more consistent."
~Sierra
Re: How does one make a reduceable *object* which sticks ...
To answer your question, you should store a unit variable and set an overlay in the unit's "recruit" event.
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[event]
first_time_only=no
name=recruit
[filter]
type=Mystic Jinn
[/filter]
[unit_overlay]
x,y=$x1,$y1
image="three_wishes_left.png"
[/unit_overlay]
{VARIABLE unit.variables.wishes 3}
[unstore_unit]
variable=unit
[/unstore_unit]
[/event]
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Re: How does one make a reduceable *object* which sticks ...
....I guess we were so carried away that he was still using 1.4 that we forgot that he had a question...
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“The difference between winners and champions is that champions are more consistent."
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Re: How does one make a reduceable *object* which sticks ...
There are a few problems of using Wesnoth 1.8, which are apparent even when I DON'T have it yet...
One: Wesnoth drops some add-ons every time it updates. Some of those add-ons were good but still discontinued, like for instance, Defence of the Castle, which incidentally is Wesnoth 1.2
.
Two: Every time I have used a "new and improved" Wesnoth version, it has more graphics, more animations, and hogs up more resources, like RAM and storage, if you get my drift.
Three: For 1.4 and 1.6 I know where to go to find the programming code for most anything and much of the programming syntax of said versions. So why would I change versions just so that I have to find out where the coding is and how to *write* it?
Four: I am not even sure that the edition of Ubuntu Linux on this computer will even allow me to update to even version 1.6 and I don't want to jeopardize a shared computer.
Do I need to continue?
Oh and thank you for the advice on how to make those wishes. I will try it soon as my *wishing store* isn't complete yet...
One: Wesnoth drops some add-ons every time it updates. Some of those add-ons were good but still discontinued, like for instance, Defence of the Castle, which incidentally is Wesnoth 1.2

Two: Every time I have used a "new and improved" Wesnoth version, it has more graphics, more animations, and hogs up more resources, like RAM and storage, if you get my drift.
Three: For 1.4 and 1.6 I know where to go to find the programming code for most anything and much of the programming syntax of said versions. So why would I change versions just so that I have to find out where the coding is and how to *write* it?
Four: I am not even sure that the edition of Ubuntu Linux on this computer will even allow me to update to even version 1.6 and I don't want to jeopardize a shared computer.
Do I need to continue?
Oh and thank you for the advice on how to make those wishes. I will try it soon as my *wishing store* isn't complete yet...
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Re: How does one make a reduceable *object* which sticks ...
you could just delete the stuff you don't want/need. ex: you could save ~142MB by deleting the music.Two: Every time I have used a "new and improved" Wesnoth version, it has more graphics, more animations, and hogs up more resources, like RAM and storage, if you get my drift.
1.8.2 has many bugfixes/added tags (and lua) since 1.4.4, so you can do more and it actually works like it is supposed to. there's the wiki, which has pretty decent documentation overall. and you could download another add-on/look at the core files to see they it works.Three: For 1.4 and 1.6 I know where to go to find the programming code for most anything and much of the programming syntax of said versions. So why would I change versions just so that I have to find out where the coding is and how to *write* it?
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Re: How does one make a reduceable *object* which sticks ...
Nice...
Maybe you and I should go on a debate on opposite teams.
Now that aside, I am trying to make a HEALS ability which acts like a Survival Extreme shop heal, minus the removing of slows, and maybe, for bonus points, be able to remove stone.
I DID try fusing HEALS and SX shop and that hasn't worked yet...
Maybe you and I should go on a debate on opposite teams.
Now that aside, I am trying to make a HEALS ability which acts like a Survival Extreme shop heal, minus the removing of slows, and maybe, for bonus points, be able to remove stone.
I DID try fusing HEALS and SX shop and that hasn't worked yet...
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Re: How does one make a reduceable *object* which sticks ...
Some experienced Linux user can kindly explain to you how to install several versions of the same program on Linux (I'd like to know that too, been installing with the package manager only until now...)Col Lightbeam wrote:One: Wesnoth drops some add-ons every time it updates. Some of those add-ons were good but still discontinued, like for instance, Defence of the Castle, which incidentally is Wesnoth 1.2.
As for CPU and RAM, I hardly noticed any difference between 1.4 and 1.8. Actually, it got faster at some points - the reloading when pressing F5 (I think). As for disk space usage, yes, that's a problem. But look at those space-consuming, *FANTASTIC* portraits made by Kitty, wouldn't it be a shame to not use them ?Two: Every time I have used a "new and improved" Wesnoth version, it has more graphics, more animations, and hogs up more resources, like RAM and storage, if you get my drift.
There are few wml differences (things that got changed or removed) between 1.4 and 1.8 - I started coding with 1.4, and updated some stuff from 1.2; the big difference was the new terrain system between 1.2 and 1.4. Also, you get documentation only for the newest release - you should have severe problems when reading 1.8 wiki documantation and wondering why things don't work as they should...Three: For 1.4 and 1.6 I know where to go to find the programming code for most anything and much of the programming syntax of said versions. So why would I change versions just so that I have to find out where the coding is and how to *write* it?
As for the "places" where the code is - that didn't change since 1.2.
see above (probably...)Four: I am not even sure that the edition of Ubuntu Linux on this computer will even allow me to update to even version 1.6 and I don't want to jeopardize a shared computer.
I can confirm that wesnoth actually got a lot better between 1.4 and 1.8 (partly due to me reporting bugs

These things can also help you indirectly with you current problem...
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Re: How does one make a reduceable *object* which sticks ...
Then what happened to cause me to have much difficulty finding wesnoth/data/ etc. for a labtop of my brother's which was probably Vista?There are few wml differences (things that got changed or removed) between 1.4 and 1.8 - I started coding with 1.4, and updated some stuff from 1.2; the big difference was the new terrain system between 1.2 and 1.4. Also, you get documentation only for the newest release - you should have severe problems when reading 1.8 wiki documantation and wondering why things don't work as they should...
As for the "places" where the code is - that didn't change since 1.2.
I am still not sure the files I found were for wesnoth 1.8...
Would someone please explain how to make a randomizer which is supposed to have a 75% chance of doing nothing and a 5% chance each of doing one of five things: +1 HP, +1 XP, +1 GP, +2 moves(not max) or +1 wood (I am currently basing an era off of GEB)
This is what I have thought of...
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###Prayer01###
[event]
name=turn 1
first_time_only=yes
[set_menu_item]
id=pray01
description="pray"
[show_if]
[have_unit]
side=$side_number
x,y=$x1,$y1
[filter]
race="celestial"
[/filter]
[/have_unit]
[/show_if]
[command]
[store_gold]
side=$side_number
variable=goldamount
[/store_gold]
[store_unit]
[filter]
x=$x1
y=$y1
[/filter]
kill=yes
mode=replace
variable=worker
[/store_unit]
[if]
[variable]
name=worker.moves
greater_than=0
[/variable]
[then]
[set_variable]
name=worker.moves
add=-1
[/set_variable]
[set_variable]
name=praychance01
rand=0,0,0,1..5
[/set_variable]
[if]
[variable]
name=praychance01
is_equal_to=0
[/variable]
[then]
[unstore_unit]
variable=worker
[/unstore_unit]
[/then]
[else]
[if]
[variable]
name=praychance01
is_equal_to=1
[/variable]
[then]
[unstore_unit]
variable=worker
[/unstore_unit]
[gold]
side=$side_number
amount=$praychance01
[/gold]
[/then]
[else]
[if]
[variable]
name=praychance01
is_equal_to=2
[/variable]
[then]
[unstore_unit]
variable=worker
[/unstore_unit]
[set_variable]
name=wood_$side_number
add=1
[/set_variable]
[/then]
[else]
[if]
[variable]
name=praychance01
is_equal_to=3
[/variable]
[then]
[unstore_unit]
variable=worker
[/unstore_unit]
[set_variable]
name=worker.hitpoints
add=1
[/set_variable]
[/then]
[else]
[if]
[variable]
name=praychance01
is_equal_to=4
[/variable]
[then]
[unstore_unit]
variable=worker
[/unstore_unit]
[set_variable]
name=worker.experience
add=1
[/set_variable]
[/then]
[else]
[then]
[unstore_unit]
variable=worker
[/unstore_unit]
[set_variable]
name=worker.moves
add=2
[/set_variable]
[/then]
[/else]
[/if]
[/else]
[/if]
[/else]
[/if]
[/else]
[/if]
[/else]
[/if]
[/then]
[else]
[unstore_unit]
variable=worker
[/unstore_unit]
[/else]
[/if]
[/command]
[/option]
[/set_menu_item]
[/event]
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Re: How does one make a reduceable *object* which sticks ...
Easy enough... you could just set all the 5 possible actions into an array of commands then choose which command to insert by selecting a random array index between 0 and 19.Would someone please explain how to make a randomizer which is supposed to have a 75% chance of doing nothing and a 5% chance each of doing one of five things: +1 HP, +1 XP, +1 GP, +2 moves(not max) or +1 wood
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[set_variables]
name=possible_commands
[literal]
# code for +1 HP
[/literal]
[literal]
# code for +1 XP
[/literal]
[literal]
# code for +1 GP
[/literal]
[literal]
# code for +2 moves
[/literal]
[literal]
# code for +1 wood
[/literal]
[/set_variables]
{RANDOM 0..19}
[insert_tag]
name=command
variable=possible_commands[$random]
[/insert_tag]
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Re: How does one make a reduceable *object* which sticks ...
Probably the "virtual folders" stuff. I don't know a windows newer than XP, but I never had problems finding the files on xp or any Linux distribution. And it certainly doesn't have anything do to with the wesnoth version.Col Lightbeam wrote:Then what happened to cause me to have much difficulty finding wesnoth/data/ etc. for a labtop of my brother's which was probably Vista?
I am still not sure the files I found were for wesnoth 1.8...
(Although sometimes the userdata files are stored in the system's userdata dir on win if you tell it so during installation, but you're referring to the core files anyway.)
projects (BfW 1.12):
A Simple Campaign: campaign draft for wml starters • Plan Your Advancements: mp mod
The Earth's Gut: sp campaign • Settlers of Wesnoth: mp scenario • Wesnoth Lua Pack: lua tags and utils
updated to 1.8 and handed over: A Gryphon's Tale: sp campaign
A Simple Campaign: campaign draft for wml starters • Plan Your Advancements: mp mod
The Earth's Gut: sp campaign • Settlers of Wesnoth: mp scenario • Wesnoth Lua Pack: lua tags and utils
updated to 1.8 and handed over: A Gryphon's Tale: sp campaign
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Re: How does one make a reduceable *object* which sticks ...
Um, I have never been in a WML class. Yes, I know what arrays are supposed to do, but haven't worked with them in WML. Would you please tell how to make allow using ranges of commands? I am almost certain I am NOT going to find out how to do this in original Wesnoth or any of the add-ons I currently have...
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[set_variables]
name=possible_commands
[literal]
# code for +1 HP
[/literal]
[literal]
# code for +1 XP
[/literal]
[literal]
# code for +1 GP
[/literal]
[literal]
# code for +2 moves
[/literal]
[literal]
# code for +1 wood
[/literal]
[/set_variables]
{RANDOM 0..19}
[insert_tag]
name=command
variable=possible_commands[$random]
[/insert_tag]
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