Era of the Future Development

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Peter the Great
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Re: Era of the Future Development

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I'd suggest combining all the movetypes into one file, because it's more simple that way and for some reason entering
{~add-ons/Era_of_the_Future/units/movetypes} into the [+units] tag doesn't work on my computer. It needs me to be more specific for some reason so instead of doing a separate path for each file I combined them into one file and added {~add-ons/Era_of_the_Future/units/movetypes.cfg}

Also, don't you think the flyer for the welkin is a bit over powered? It has a good ranged and melee attack (exactly the same as the elvish fighter's stats IIRC) AND it has move move points, it costs less to move over mountains and other terrains, and it has a better dodge on most terrains (except forest for some reason, if he can fly over mountains, why not forests?) with only slightly less hp

EDIT: Oh, forgot that they have slightly better resistances too.
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Re: Era of the Future Development

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Peter the Great wrote:Also, don't you think the flyer for the welkin is a bit over powered?
which one? 4 of their 8 units can fly.
Mirion147 wrote:I tried to open the campaign and it gave me an error message halfway through loading:
yeah, i got that too. i somehow fixed it by removing the map file, reloading wesnoth, putting them back in, and then reloading again. no idea why that worked :hmm:
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Pentarctagon wrote:
Peter the Great wrote:Also, don't you think the flyer for the welkin is a bit over powered?
which one? 4 of their 8 units can fly.
The one called "Flyer"
In case you forgot here's the cfg file.
Oh, and also it's only one gold more than the fighter.

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#textdomain wesnoth-Era_of_the_Future

[unit_type]
    id=Flyer
    name= _ "Flyer"
    race=welkin
    gender=male,female
    image="units/Welkin/Flyer.png"
    {MAGENTA_IS_THE_TEAM_COLOR}
    level=1
    alignment=lawful
    experience=33
    advances_to=Mentor,Grand Flyer
    {AMLA_DEFAULT}
    hitpoints=34
    movement=5
    movement_type=welkinwing
    cost=15
    usage=fighter
    description= _ "The most common of the Welkin, Flyers are very distinguishable by their flaming red hair and menacing ring blade. Because they are the main fighting force of the Army of Aten, Flyers must be at least equally skilled in the use of their ring blade and the flame, despite being devout followers of the sun. The Welkin are known for their pacifism, as the Flyers show by staying away from a fight whenever possible. However, due to their high sense of honor, conflict cannot always be avoided."

    [female]
        name= _ "female^Flyer"
        gender=female
        image="units/Welkin/Flyer_Female.png"
    [/female]

    [attack]
        name=Ring Blade
        description=_"Ring Blade"
        icon="attacks/chakram.png"
        type=blade
        range=melee
        damage=5
        number=4
    [/attack]

    [attack_anim]
        [filter_attack]
            name=Ring Blade
        [/filter_attack]
        [if]
            hits=yes
            [frame]
                sound={SOUND_LIST:SWORD_SWISH}
            [/frame]
        [/if]
    [/attack_anim]

    [attack]
        name=Sunburst
        description=_"Sunburst"
        icon="attacks/sunburst.png"
        type=fire
        range=ranged
        damage=3
        number=3
    [/attack]

    [attack_anim]
        [filter_attack]
            name=Sunburst
        [/filter_attack]
        {FIRE_BURST_SMALL}
        start_time=-575
        [if]
            hits=yes
            [frame]
                sound=magic-missile-1.ogg,magic-missile-2.ogg,magic-missile-3.ogg
            [/frame]
        [/if]
    [/attack_anim]
[/unit_type]
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i know which one and yes we realize they are more powerful than mainline units. we need to balance the era's factions and then power them down to be about even with mainline.
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yeah, ive been kinda slacking in that respect...though they are much better than before (go look at ageless era's welkin). ill try and get a balance revision list together after i attempt the mp maps. although don't know when i will be able to, i am actually getting hw this quarter :cry: .
ps- if anyone else wants to make a map or two, then go for it.
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I tried to make a map once, it was verily horrid. Sorry, I can't help there, I'm worse at mapmaking then I am at coding, which is pretty bad.

I downloaded the most recent version of wesnoth, and then I tried to open the campaign, and it said
Spoiler:
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You know, I came up with an idea for balancing. Get out MS Excel and make a chart with the X axis being attack types- ranged and melee, and the Y axis as attack types- fire, impact, pierce, etc. Then for each box list a unit that has that attack type and how much damage he deals. I think it'll be easier to balance if you see what your units are using to attack, and how to make it cleaner across the board. Haven't tried it yet- going to do so with Steelhive.
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But defences, dodge, movement, HP, XP, and cost are also factors in balancing, right? That would have to be an octagonal chart.
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Huston wrote:i know which one and yes we realize they are more powerful than mainline units. we need to balance the era's factions and then power them down to be about even with mainline.
Well, in the mean time it's annoying to fight these guys with mainline units (dwarves in the campaign) :wink:
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@Peter_the_Great: its a umc campaign version 0.0.01 made with a umc race. feel free to make some suggestions as to what should be changed in order to make the faction/campaign more balanced.
@huston: 2 things a) you added the .map extension with the wesnoth map editor right? cause doing it with an outside program doesn't work right. b) i am using windows 7, and when i tried editing the map name, it told me that colons, among other things, couldn't be used in file names.
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Mirion147 wrote:But defences, dodge, movement, HP, XP, and cost are also factors in balancing, right? That would have to be an octagonal chart.
Yeah, but do you really want to get THAT complicated? HP and XP would probably be graphs. Defenses, dodge, and movement can be combined into one mass-lump "Which units are good in these terrains and to what degree" 2-axis chart.
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All I'm saying is it would probly be tough, but there probably is some theorem for it. If it works though, I'd like to see it :).
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I forgot the sixth attack type. blade, pierce, impact, fire, cold, is there anything else...?

EDIT: Oh right Arcane. I'm an idiot.
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Arcane, isn't it?
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:oops: no i added the .map extention through rename. i'll fix that.
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