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[melinath]

If you really want to fix something, we could use some work on our stone monolith graphics; they're currently very flat.

You mean this, right?

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I would be happy to fix its flatness, if someone could tell me what exactly it's supposed to be... I've never quite understood, and I don't feel like I can work on something if I don't know what it's based on/what it's for.

[thespaceinvader]

It's a menhir/standing stone of some kind.

[beetlenaut]

is it only me or does the gold armor have blue in the dark shadows?

Shadows are supposed to be tinted blue. Many are not because the sprites are too old. So, if you want to fix things up, you need to go the other way! Details: http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/Creating_Sh ... nder_Units

[thespaceinvader]

The shadow under the item is not at issue, the shading of the item is. Personally, I think there's not an awful lot to choose between them...

[Turuk]

Indeed, at this point it really just comes down to a matter of preference.

[SomeOneNamedMe]

i thought it looked a bit odd for gold but either way it's still pretty good.

I'm not sure if i got this right though are the shadows or shading on sprites in need of tuning up?

[thespaceinvader]

The shadows under units are in the process of recieving a new style and colour.

[melinath]

It's a menhir/standing stone of some kind.

Sweet! Wesnothian prehistory has mysterious stone architects?

Here's an attempt:

[Blarumyrran]

It looks worse than the old one.

Build it up of clear geometric shapes with clear light direction & clear perspective & clear shading of sides.

[melinath]

Build it up of clear geometric shapes with clear light direction & clear perspective & clear shading of sides.

Okay... I'll try. It's hard because the stones don't have clear geometric shapes - they're very funny shaped. But you're right. My last one was way too smooth. New attempt:

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EDIT:: Note: this is not a finished version. This is a "you mean more like this?" version.

[Turuk]

Indeed, that looks more like stone that has been roughly finished. As I know it is a WIP, what are you going to do for shading on the dark side?

[Jetrel]

is it only me or does the gold armor have blue in the dark shadows?

Shadows are supposed to be tinted blue. Many are not because the sprites are too old. So, if you want to fix things up, you need to go the other way! Details: http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/Creating_Sh ... nder_Units

Correct. Shadows that are simply a darker shade of the original tone are generally a rather "noobish" way of shading; they're not taking any color theory into account. They can be correct under certain circumstances, but shadows are generally a slightly different color, because they're illuminated by primarily blue/green reflected light from blue/green grass, rather than yellow light coming from the sun.

The shadow side of an object is generally always illuminated by a secondary light source. I know it sounds unintuitive, but it's true. If it wasn't, it'd be jet black. If you can see it, there's some light illuminating it.

[SomeOneNamedMe]

The shadow side of an object is generally always illuminated by a secondary light source. I know it sounds unintuitive, but it's true. If it wasn't, it'd be jet black. If you can see it, there's some light illuminating it.

I get it, I'v notice that effect before.

Is there a specific thread for tuning up shadows?

[PsychoticKittens]

wouldn't it more often be reflected light than a secondary source? (Although that might be considered a second source, it seems to me like It'd still be the first source, but bounced off of something.) Not that it matters.

[thespaceinvader]

It's a secondary light source - what it is exactly usually depends on the environment. It may be the diffuse blue of the sky, more concentrated reflections from nearby objects, that sort of thing.