allied leadership for mainline 2
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allied leadership for mainline 2
well.. if you lock the post, how can one give evidence?
i think i have the evidence proving that it must be in mainline...
1) allies heal allies... playing 4v4 some units near shamans or lvl 2 mages or LEADER WHITE MAGE + shamans may heal 100% by the next turn.
2) If leader white mage can heal allies, why leader leutenant cant lead allied troops?
3) shamans are also hard to coordinate to heal one's units, but players use them and do it well. getting double healing, instead of maximum 10.
what bad a leader with leadership can do to your "balance"? i dont think that 4 leadership units can give a unit double attack damage, while shamans can.
developers dont offend people please, its you who offend usual people in the forums, not we offend developers. truepurple asked a normal question. If you cant normaly reply, ignore it or delete it or lock it without offensive replies. It really insults very much.
if u are scared of flamings, replay and lock it, i dont understand why. You are the only authorities, none of flamers can affect the game. But insulting and locking is pathetic.
i think i have the evidence proving that it must be in mainline...
1) allies heal allies... playing 4v4 some units near shamans or lvl 2 mages or LEADER WHITE MAGE + shamans may heal 100% by the next turn.
2) If leader white mage can heal allies, why leader leutenant cant lead allied troops?
3) shamans are also hard to coordinate to heal one's units, but players use them and do it well. getting double healing, instead of maximum 10.
what bad a leader with leadership can do to your "balance"? i dont think that 4 leadership units can give a unit double attack damage, while shamans can.
developers dont offend people please, its you who offend usual people in the forums, not we offend developers. truepurple asked a normal question. If you cant normaly reply, ignore it or delete it or lock it without offensive replies. It really insults very much.
if u are scared of flamings, replay and lock it, i dont understand why. You are the only authorities, none of flamers can affect the game. But insulting and locking is pathetic.
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Re: allied leadership for mainline 2
I think its best to look at films for this one.enclave wrote:well.. if you lock the post, how can one give evidence?
i think i have the evidence proving that it must be in mainline...
1) allies heal allies... playing 4v4 some units near shamans or lvl 2 mages or LEADER WHITE MAGE + shamans may heal 100% by the next turn.
2) If leader white mage can heal allies, why leader leutenant cant lead allied troops?
3) shamans are also hard to coordinate to heal one's units, but players use them and do it well. getting double healing, instead of maximum 10.
what bad a leader with leadership can do to your "balance"? i dont think that 4 leadership units can give a unit double attack damage, while shamans can.
developers dont offend people please, its you who offend usual people in the forums, not we offend developers. truepurple asked a normal question. If you cant normaly reply, ignore it or delete it or lock it without offensive replies. It really insults very much.
if u are scared of flamings, replay and lock it, i dont understand why. You are the only authorities, none of flamers can affect the game. But insulting and locking is pathetic.
In the Two Towers (LOTR film not book) at helms deep, the elves are lead by aragon and the rohan by Theodin. Both are allies, yet Theodin doesnt lead the elves and vice versa. Aragon offers firing aid to the Rohan and the Rohan defend the gate and the keep (Basically the same as an allied unit healing another). Just because they are fighting along side each other doesnt mean they lead each others units. In Wesnoth the animosity between all factions would never allow this, can you really see a goblin being lead by a human?
As for your other comments, im backing the devs here. They must get hundreds of simliar ideas that they dont want, cant blame them for getting annoyed once in a while.
EDIT: and in what way did the devs insult truepurple?
Well yes actually....can you really see a goblin being lead by a human?
But I think the storyline point should really close the debate. If an elf captain said to a dwarf: Go there kill him!
The dwarf would : a) kill the elf b) Insult the elf c) make a rude gesture at the elf and then kill him.
Even if they were allies. Now as a band of heroes working together in the same army, it's different. but as a one off alliance.I can't see it happening.
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Yes, probably would have better for you with the mods if you hadn't made this thread, that said..
It was strange Noys statement of "over powered" presumably he means if the allied leadership stacked. Perhaps its difficult to not make it stack? But then irrevenant feels it would have almost no effect at all so it should be about "realism" (and the realism effect seems nominal, if they are allied to the same cause in the first place, they must be close enough to accept commands from allied leaders) Opposite reasons for not allowing it? Very strange.
Oh well, since the all mighty knowing can't be bothered to explain since its so obvious... We may never know
"well.. if you lock the post, how can one give evidence?"
I was thinking the very same thing. I probably wouldn't say so except you said it first, so it proves its not just me
There is a connection with the allied healing issue in that a number of reasons given there apply with allied leadership. Like that they want allie healing stacking for a reward for experience players that can manage it, so why is (nonstacking) allied leadership any different?
Seems strange though you mostly talk about allied healing. Not complaining.
It was strange Noys statement of "over powered" presumably he means if the allied leadership stacked. Perhaps its difficult to not make it stack? But then irrevenant feels it would have almost no effect at all so it should be about "realism" (and the realism effect seems nominal, if they are allied to the same cause in the first place, they must be close enough to accept commands from allied leaders) Opposite reasons for not allowing it? Very strange.
Oh well, since the all mighty knowing can't be bothered to explain since its so obvious... We may never know
"well.. if you lock the post, how can one give evidence?"
I was thinking the very same thing. I probably wouldn't say so except you said it first, so it proves its not just me
There is a connection with the allied healing issue in that a number of reasons given there apply with allied leadership. Like that they want allie healing stacking for a reward for experience players that can manage it, so why is (nonstacking) allied leadership any different?
Seems strange though you mostly talk about allied healing. Not complaining.
Last edited by TruePurple on February 6th, 2008, 12:30 pm, edited 4 times in total.
sorry... have u seen an elve healing an orc? i dont know how many movies you watched.. but they all have nothing common to wesnoth's system of bonuses. maybe you have seen mermans attacking from hills in your movies? tell me, im really interested.
i didnt pay attention to game, but can shaman or white mages heal skeletons? if yes, i also would like to know which movie shows it
really interested, tell me.
Ken Oh: what means PM? really curious.. and is your native language english? then explain me in russian please.. in case i dont understand it in english. thanks.
i didnt pay attention to game, but can shaman or white mages heal skeletons? if yes, i also would like to know which movie shows it
really interested, tell me.Ken Oh: what means PM? really curious.. and is your native language english? then explain me in russian please.. in case i dont understand it in english. thanks.
What doesn't kill us makes us stronger!
What's all the agressivenes about?
PM is private message... there is a page in the wiki which explains all words you know...
What movie? none Fantasy movies are usually cheap.
What book. Orcs byStan Nicholls has a dwarf fighting alongside a band of orcs and a human mage healing them. Even an orc healer helping humans.
The humans in there are one off allies and the dwarf is part of the band thus follows the orcs' orders.
PM is private message... there is a page in the wiki which explains all words you know...
What movie? none Fantasy movies are usually cheap.
What book. Orcs byStan Nicholls has a dwarf fighting alongside a band of orcs and a human mage healing them. Even an orc healer helping humans.
The humans in there are one off allies and the dwarf is part of the band thus follows the orcs' orders.
You like gold? you don't care about Kings or wizards? You hate elves? then be a Griffoon Lad
What?? elf healing an orc, did you even read my post before posting that? I was saying that in a classical good verses evil film, even the allied "good forces" dont lead each others troops. Plus theres a huge difference between healing an allied unit on the battlefield and actually leading one. Its not really up to debate, it aint going to change, so why bother even debating it?enclave wrote:sorry... have u seen an elve healing an orc? i dont know how many movies you watched.. but they all have nothing common to wesnoth's system of bonuses. maybe you have seen mermans attacking from hills in your movies? tell me, im really interested.
i didnt pay attention to game, but can shaman or white mages heal skeletons? if yes, i also would like to know which movie shows it
Ken Oh: what means PM? really curious.. and is your native language english? then explain me in russian please.. in case i dont understand it in english. thanks.
EDIT: plus i would recommend changing you sig, doesn portray the inner you
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we debate it because i was insulted when read how purple was insulted
no Quietus, you didnt say about classical evil film.. you told about films connected to wesnoth.. so where is the connection about healing skeletons by white mages? or what is the connection between mermans from hills and your two towers?
my sig fits me well
no Quietus, you didnt say about classical evil film.. you told about films connected to wesnoth.. so where is the connection about healing skeletons by white mages? or what is the connection between mermans from hills and your two towers?
my sig fits me well
What doesn't kill us makes us stronger!
No I said one dwarf in a band of orcs was lead by an orc... I did not say: the all dwarish nation marched under an orc's leadership. Or that an orc army and a dwarf army were allied and commanded each other's troops...
I said: Adawarf/elf/whatever, in a band can be lead by any member of that band. But a dwarf/or whatever in a distinct army can't be lead by the ally's generals.
Do not try to turn round my quotes.
I said: Adawarf/elf/whatever, in a band can be lead by any member of that band. But a dwarf/or whatever in a distinct army can't be lead by the ally's generals.
Do not try to turn round my quotes.
You like gold? you don't care about Kings or wizards? You hate elves? then be a Griffoon Lad
Ok lets debateenclave wrote:we debate it because i was insulted when read how purple was insulted
I know i said a classic "good versus Evil" filmenclave wrote:no Quietus, you didnt say about classical evil film..
No i recal saying "I think its best to look at films for this one.", didnt mention Wesnoth onceenclave wrote:you told about films connected to wesnoth..
Skeletons cant get healed because they're undeadenclave wrote:so where is the connection about healing skeletons by white mages?..
isnt one, i never said there was, and if you use merman on hills then you're more of a n00b than i thought.enclave wrote:what is the connection between mermans from hills and your two towers?
Debate over