Westeros monthly 6p FFA

Post by **Noy** » December 5th, 2006, 11:35 pm

Oh, btw, for all those who have played with me for quite some time, Noy's propaganda machine will be in full effect.

JW · Post by JW » December 6th, 2006, 12:11 am

I'll watch if not play.

Kollle · Post by **Kollle** » December 6th, 2006, 6:40 am

I have a busy week, but I can hopefully make the time for this...Sunday currently looks best for me, as I have to play in the tournament on Saturday.

Post by jb » December 6th, 2006, 6:52 pm

I may be willing to reconsider my postition on this map. I'd be willing to give it another chance if there were SET diplomacy breaks...perhaps every 10 turns going to the lobby where /msg is possible. Also, starting with a 3 hex keep seems to put a burden vs. those who have a 4 hex keep as those initial recruits are so vital.

Anyway, I won't steal anyone's slot, but if someone bails i may be around to pick up the pieces.

Post by **Becephalus** » December 6th, 2006, 7:10 pm

no one has a 4 hex keep.

Post by jb » December 6th, 2006, 7:28 pm

oops, my mistake

tsr · Post by **tsr** » December 6th, 2006, 8:22 pm

jb wrote:I may be willing to reconsider my postition on this map. I'd be willing to give it another chance if there were SET diplomacy breaks...perhaps every 10 turns going to the lobby where /msg is possible.

I think (well I'm not Zoo, so I'd have to guess before I code it) that it would be quite easy to fix this with WML and some shroud tricks.

I'm thinking two channels of communication:
1. create a small area 12 hexes into solid cavewall where one unit with unlimited movement (from now on referred to as the messenger) and 6 hotspots are located.

Each turn the messenger changes side to the current players side. The six hotspots represent each available side (preferably the player name as label - with color) and when the messenger moves on the hotspot of one side the messenger (and thus the current player) get on the same team as the hotspot owner.

The first thing that happens on every player turn is that the messenger unit gets on a neutral team so that it's not possible to see who the previous player has been talking to.

2. Create 20 2x2 or 3x3 grassland holes in solid cavewall. In each hole put one unit from two sides with movement=1, this way all players will be able to communicate all the time through labeling.

If you'd like I could try to code this as a way to improve my WML-skills.

/tsr - that doesn't now if it's even wanted by the official Westeros GM

Post by **Becephalus** » December 6th, 2006, 9:12 pm

TSR-

sounds like a decent idea although I am worried by how much it could slow play. You could definitely try jsut to see how it works. A timer would really really be required, as I foten notice fairly quick players can take for absolute ever (like 15mins a side) in a serious 2v2 or 3v3 as they hash things out.

Post by **Taurus** » December 7th, 2006, 7:17 am

Gus wrote:
Taurus wrote: Lord Becephalus of Casterly Rock I bet
You really want in, huh? =P

LOL, nah, that is just my honest to God prediction.

chameleon_effect · December 15th, 2006, 3:09 am

By "FFA" we mean everybody kills becephalus and kills him until he is dead. Then the game can resume normally.

jgp93 · Post by **jgp93** » July 24th, 2007, 12:31 pm

I don't consider myself to have any reasonable skill at wesnoth, however the idea really interests me. Could you also try to set up several more for less experienced players?

I'm also attempting to make a similar map from scratch for a few of my buddies, do you have any guidelines for making a good map?

Multiplayer Scenarios / Campaigns · Post by **Rhuvaen** » July 24th, 2007, 12:59 pm

BTW, has tsr's messenger idea been tried?

It could be done so that communication is only possible while it's not the player's turn. Preferrably, you could also block communication from other players to prevent them from listening in to your alliance plans.

Also, is there an interest in Borderland-Wars type victory conditions for this? Meaning you win by conquering capitals instead of killing the leaders?

Post by **Velensk** » July 24th, 2007, 5:07 pm

I think schedualing this will be nightmarish...
Though even with that it sounds fun. If you don't get enough players I'd be interested in joining.

Definatly post a replay after it is finished

I think that it might be easier to do a 4p wilderlands though...

It might be neat if each player played a diffrent faction.

Nebiros · Post by **Nebiros** » July 24th, 2007, 6:26 pm

jgp93 wrote:I don't consider myself to have any reasonable skill at wesnoth, however the idea really interests me. Could you also try to set up several more for less experienced players?

Seconded. I'd like to try this kind of game too, but I fear that I would only be a source of cheap villages and exp to experienced players who started near me, which would unbalance the game between the real contenders based only on who was lucky enough to start next to the guy who doesn't know what he's doing.

Kollle · Post by **Kollle** » July 24th, 2007, 7:17 pm

Try looking at the original posting dates; this project looked promising, but died (I believe the tournament that was running at the time was partially responable). If Bece wants to bring it back, I might even play.

And to Velensk, I believe Bece posted the replay a long time ago, but didn't finish it. Yes, he did win, thanks to an elicit concoction of lying, deceit, alliances, backstabbing, and blatant propaganda. Oh, and his play was somewhat competent as well.