Siege Trooper/Iron Mauler Portrait

Gorzan · Post by **Gorzan** » March 8th, 2007, 2:34 am

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Rocket Slug · Post by **Rocket Slug** » March 8th, 2007, 3:18 am

This is sorta like your previous portrait. Shadows are whack (arm, helmet, and shield in particular), there's lack of detail, and perspective's flat. Take a look at what's been done for your heavy infantry portrait and try to learn from that.

Gorzan · Post by **Gorzan** » March 8th, 2007, 3:37 am

On my heavy infrantry portrait, an art contributor help put the composition on it. I don't know what program was used, so that is why I asked about composition for the Gimp program.

Post by **irrevenant** » March 8th, 2007, 8:48 am

Please draw with an antialiased tool (eg. The GIMP's 'paintbrush'). A portrait with lines that pixelated is never going to be accepted.

What do you mean by "do composition on the GIMP"?

Gorzan · Post by **Gorzan** » March 8th, 2007, 8:42 pm

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Woodwizzle · Post by **Woodwizzle** » March 8th, 2007, 10:03 pm

Gorzan wrote:Oh and which lines are too pixel? Is it the shield or the whole thing in general?

The whole thing. Not the whole thing in general, but the entire thing. YOU MUST USE ANTIALIASED LINES!!! All of the lines you used are not antialiased. Its not just important, it is critical.

Also, do not go back and try to blur the line. That will always end in failure. You need to redraw it with a tool like the paintbrush instead of a tool like the pencil.

Gorzan · Post by **Gorzan** » March 9th, 2007, 9:48 pm

I have been trying but I don't believe that I know enough to do art here. the people here are honest to art work which I appriciate, but they can be a bit... to honest... Of course I do understand why they do what they do, the people here wasnts the art contributers to put their all in the art work, to really push them to do their best. unfortunally my limit has been reached and I cannot do this anymore, between the school projects and this I cannot keep up, and do a decent enough work here.

I just dont know how to use GIMP that well, even after weeks of looking around in it, in more of a MS paint guy which cannot create an approte product to the people here. Call me a quitter if u must, but try not to get too distracted on this tread from you real reason you are here for, and that is to create great artwork here.

Gus · Post by **Gus** » March 9th, 2007, 11:23 pm

I'm not sure i understand your post. Am i right to feel a little bit of resentment in it?
The art you posted is definitely not up to the quality needed to get in the game. People have given hints at what you should do. If you can't do that, no one will hold anything against you. But, as you have said, people here will be honest about your work. They won't tell you it's "not that bad" just so that you can feel good. And there's absolutely no shame in not being able to draw at the high-quality required for this game. It doesn't even mean you're bad at drawing. Just not good enough to contribute.

Post by **irrevenant** » March 10th, 2007, 12:10 am

I apologise for my post being overly blunt. I think I posted at a time that I shouldn't have.

Gorzan wrote:I just dont know how to use GIMP that well, even after weeks of looking around in it, in more of a MS paint guy which cannot create an approte product to the people here. Call me a quitter if u must, but try not to get too distracted on this tread from you real reason you are here for, and that is to create great artwork here.

GIMP has a lot of very powerful - and scary-looking! - tools. IMO, totally ignore them and just use the basic tools to start with.

In this case, just use The GIMP as you would MS-Paint, with one exception: Use the 'paintbrush' tool rather than the 'pencil'.

If there's anything you can do in MS-Paint that you don't know how to do in the GIMP, just ask.

A clarification regarding the 'paintbrush':
The GIMP's pencil and paintbrush tools can have tips of various sizes and shapes. The only difference between the two is that the paintbrush is anti-aliased and the pencil isn't.

To change the tip on either the currently active tool go to Dialogs->Tool Options (or Ctrl-Shift-T). The circle in that picture is the current pencil/paintbrush tip. You can double-click on that and select any one you want.

[EDIT] P.S. One thing that may be freaking you out is the GIMP 'bucket' (fill) tool. By default it entirely fills the currently active selection (or the entire picture if nothing is selected). You can turn it into an MS-Paint-style 'fill' by goint to Dialogs-> Tool Options and selecting 'fill similar colours'.

Post by **Thrawn** » March 10th, 2007, 12:35 am

I had this problem when I first began.

What really helps is to use a canvas 2-3 times larger than what you originally want (so around 6-900 x6-900) and use a size 3 BRUSH, not pencil. Trying to use the 1 pixel brush is awful, as I guess you have figured out. Draw it larger than you need, and then shrink it using cubic interpolation, not linear or no interpolation

Hope this helps

Post by **Jetrel** » March 10th, 2007, 7:23 pm

What Thrawn/Irrevenant said. Thank guys.