Slight tweakment on the Warlord.

Post by **Zhukov** » December 28th, 2006, 2:33 pm

I've never liked the image for this unit, much as I want to.
The most glaring problem is they way he holds the sword in his (his) left hand, pointing straight up and hugged close to the chest. Also, it appears to be directly in front of his face. It just doesn't seem like the way a person (or orc) would hold it. On top of that, the straight lines don't sit well with the eye - although that might just be me.

Anyway, rather then just whinge about it, I took a swing at correcting it. Only a small change really.

Lugo Moll · Post by **Lugo Moll** » December 28th, 2006, 2:54 pm

I think it looks nice, I have also always been disturbed by his pose. This one seems better. Although, it kind of looks as if his hand is directly attached to his chest. Maybe more of his arm should be visible.

Post by **zookeeper** » December 28th, 2006, 3:13 pm

I've always been bugged by the ackward pose as well. Here are three of my quick tweaks, which are actually all a bit more radical changes to the pose.

I prefer 2 or 3 myself.

Gus · Post by **Gus** » December 28th, 2006, 3:23 pm

zookeeper wrote:I prefer 2 or 3 myself.

Same here.

Post by **Iris** » December 28th, 2006, 3:38 pm

I like 3. It looks more agressive. EDIT: er, ready for battle.

Dragon Master · Post by **Dragon Master** » December 28th, 2006, 3:42 pm

I like Zhukov's edit the best, you still can see that the warlord is ready for battle but content to rest his giant sword on his shoulder. Maybe you could even make his sword bigger. Nice to see that he doesn't look crammed into an invisible box anymore

kav · Post by **kav** » December 28th, 2006, 4:01 pm

I love northerners, grunts especially, so I'm always staring at these guys. Overall I always thought the lvl 2 image looked much better than the lvl 1 or lvl 3 images. Though I don't know what you could do to the current lvl 3 image to really fix it. All of these edits just look a little 'forced' if you know what I mean.

Never did like his ugly looking helmet on any of his images either.
But he's still my favorit unit.

Post by **Noyga** » December 28th, 2006, 7:22 pm

I prefer 2, and something more like 3 for defensive frame.

Post by **Redeth** » December 28th, 2006, 8:38 pm

Noyga wrote:I prefer 2, and something more like 3 for defensive frame.

I agree.

Post by **Zhukov** » December 28th, 2006, 10:08 pm

Of zookeeper's edit I like 3 the best. 1 and 2 look a bit too similar to the Elf Champion and a bit forced. Though I suspect they could be made to work with cleanup. (Overall I prefer my own, as one could expect

.)

Anyway, I shall leave this to any passing devs who care to make something of it.

Post by **EELuminatus** » December 28th, 2006, 10:53 pm

Zhukov wrote:Overall I prefer my own, as one could expect .

Me too!

The pose of your version looks more relaxed and natural and holding a sword like that even makes sense. Zookeeper's versions 1 and 2 both remind me of corkscrews somehow - looking cool, but somewhat impracticable. The 3rd one could be used for another frame, like for an idling animation.
... after all, realism probably isn't as important here.

Post by **Boucman** » December 28th, 2006, 11:31 pm

remember that a unit can have multiple base frames

Post by **Jetrel** » December 29th, 2006, 12:00 am

I prefer the one Zhukov made, for a straight "base frame". It seems the most natural and relaxed for "general situations".

As for some of the others (esp. 1 & 3), they'd work great for "key" frames in an idle animation.

Post by **torangan** » December 29th, 2006, 12:30 am

Boucman wrote:remember that a unit can have multiple base frames

I don't think that would help for easily recognized units...

Website · Post by **Sapient** » December 29th, 2006, 1:03 am

I don't like Zhukov's edit, sorry to disagree with ya Jetryl.
I kind of like the boxed look, because it makes him look very stuffy.

However, I must say Zookeepers Alt-2 looks nice because it's so predatory and unusual.