Naga Hunter

[Oreb]

And how would the naga, know how to release the calcium from bows, if they are living in what is comparable to the Latter of the Middle Ages. I don't beleive there were many scientists back then, yet again if they knew what one was.

But still this bow is a tough hassle, we should really have a comment from Jetryl on what would be a good idea.

[Thumper]

#FFFFF0 is the W3C's version of "ivory". Somewhere between that and #F0E68C ("khaki") would seem to be the range to hit. The current colour isn't bright enough to look white and the range isn't big enough to look yellow.

And how would the naga, know how to release the calcium from bows

They'd soak the bone in something acidic. Not rocket science. It's not like they're sitting around waiting for Ray Mears to be invented. My only beef is why a naga would use a weapon which requires excellent eyesight and dexterity and is useless underwater, but then, it's a walking magical fish monster.

- Chris

[Ranger M]

And how would the naga, know how to release the calcium from bows, if they are living in what is comparable to the Latter of the Middle Ages. I don't beleive there were many scientists back then, yet again if they knew what one was.

But still this bow is a tough hassle, we should really have a comment from Jetryl on what would be a good idea.

In the same way that people learnt to make beer, or make wooden bows (the concept of carving and stringing a bow in order to fire arrows at an animal is very complex, especially if you are just used to hitting things with clubs or swords), a combination of luck and experimentation. Some Naga who was messing around with a bone of that shape accidently dropped in it whatever the liquid that removes the calcuim (you remove the calcuim by boiling it in something, possibly ethanol) and when a while later he picked it up he noticed that it was bendy but still relatively tough, then he thought, "actually, this would make a great bow, I'll never have to carve the bows, and these ribs are lying around all over the place so I'm not going to run out any time soon".

#FFFFF0 is the W3C's version of "ivory". Somewhere between that and #F0E68C ("khaki") would seem to be the range to hit. The current colour isn't bright enough to look white and the range isn't big enough to look yellow.

what is W3C?

They'd soak the bone in something acidic. Not rocket science. It's not like they're sitting around waiting for Ray Mears to be invented. My only beef is why a naga would use a weapon which requires excellent eyesight and dexterity and is useless underwater, but then, it's a walking magical fish monster.

exactly. As for using bows, nagas go on land as well, and bows are only usless if they are made out of wood and string, if the bowstring is made out of something that doesn't go floppy and useless underwater then you could theoretically use a bow (and seeing as they live underwater they would likely have access to that kind of material). I'm not sure if the wood is a problem underwater, but these aren't wooden anyway.

[Oreb]

Well my drawing/animating (which I am using to compete, and so far win in a state wide competition) program has the colours #FFFFF0 and also #F0E68C. So I am sure that any drawing program would have those colours.

Anyway, I'm guessing that's the thing about having a magical game with snake-like monsters that carve bows from bones, and use arrows instead of long pointy sticks to kill fish.

[vonHalenbach]

what is W3C?

The world wide web consortium. http://www.w3.org/

[Ranger M]

Ok, final final version:

I've fixed all of Jetryl's comments (unless the hand is still too small, at which point I might just kill somebody before drawing it again), and used the exact halfway point between ivory and khaki for the lighter part of the bow, and the darker bit is just a darker version. I am no longer going to change the bow colour, even if I end up re-doing the whole thing for whatever reason, the bow colour will not change. Think of it as an executive decision because I'm not going to spend ages trying to find a colour that fits.

[Jetrel]

Move the far shoulder below this red line:

[Oreb]

Ok, final final version:

I've fixed all of Jetryl's comments (unless the hand is still too small, at which point I might just kill somebody before drawing it again), and used the exact halfway point between ivory and khaki for the lighter part of the bow, and the darker bit is just a darker version. I am no longer going to change the bow colour, even if I end up re-doing the whole thing for whatever reason, the bow colour will not change. Think of it as an executive decision because I'm not going to spend ages trying to find a colour that fits.

Hmm.. maybe a bit more of the khaki in the bow... IMHO it is looking alot better, but needs some more khaki.

[Ranger M]

Move the far shoulder below this red line:

Ok.

[Ranger M]

Done (this was actually done about seven hours ago, but real life tm got in the way).

Well, that's my first mainline quality portrait done (milestone reached, woot!), it's only a shame that I may end up having to not use it, I don't mind because even if I don't use it somebody else might, I just hope that this thread hasn't sunk before then.

[Jetrel]

Looks good.

I'll check on UtBS, and see if that campaign uses this unit - if it does, I'll put this in there.


Keep practicing these, and you'll soon be able to do this well solo. Way to go.

[Ranger M]

I'll check on UtBS, and see if that campaign uses this unit - if it does, I'll put this in there.

It does, but I already checked with quartex, and they have no lines at all, this is his reply:

Thanks, but the naga aren't very important in UTBS, so I don't think a portrait is really necessary. Still I appreciate the effort. I think it's more likely to be needed in the mainline version of wesnoth than in UTBS specifically.

It kind of gives the impression that he didn't realise that by the time I'd asked him I'd almost finished it (or at least I thought that I had).

Keep practicing these, and you'll soon be able to do this well solo. Way to go.

Thanks (on to the outlaw)

[Vendanna]

Why the eye on the right is orange colored while the eye on the left is red?

There are still a few things that doesn't look good for me, like the "ear" in the right, it looks like is missing something that it could be seen from that angle, but that's me (I think its too narrow/strech?)

The yellow straw lines looks really nice, tought I'm not sure that it would adopt that position in the left shoulder, the other seems aligned enough but that one (that connects shoulder with arm) looks unaligned for some reason.

Apart of that, it is a great drawing, congrats for all the effort you invested on it

[Ranger M]

Why the eye on the right is orange colored while the eye on the left is red?

it isn't, it's a lighter red because it isn't in shadow.

There are still a few things that doesn't look good for me, like the "ear" in the right, it looks like is missing something that it could be seen from that angle, but that's me (I think its too narrow/strech?)

It's flat on and the ear is wider than the membrane, you shouldn't be able to see anything.

The yellow straw lines looks really nice, though I'm not sure that it would adopt that position in the left shoulder, the other seems aligned enough but that one (that connects shoulder with arm) looks unaligned for some reason.

the patterns don't have to be symetrical (it's like hair for humans, or spots for lepards, different on each one)

Apart of that, it is a great drawing, congrats for all the effort you invested on it

thanks

[K3az]

just finished looking at everything, and yes, very good work, but a quick question, will this unit have a mele attack?