Marksmanship Discussion.

Post by **Zhukov** » March 13th, 2006, 12:20 pm

I am still in favor of "Adept" for a melee/ranged name.
If we are looking for only melee, what about "Deft"?

Other brainstorm possibilites: dexterous, agile, nimble, skilled...

EDIT:

Noy wrote: Thats quite a good one. General consensus from people is Mastery.

Does this mean you have already chosen "Mastery"?

Post by **zookeeper** » March 13th, 2006, 12:28 pm

I don't like "Mastery". An elvish marksman would then have "mastered" the bow, but almost no other unit would have equally mastered their weapon. An elvish champion is supposed to be just as good with a sword as the marksman/sharpshooter is with a bow. "Mastery" sounds like something that a lot of units, especially units of higher levels, should get. "Marksman" only implies that the unit is accurate with the weapon, whereas "Mastery" implies more. Unfortunately, I haven't seen any suggestions that would IMHO rival "marksman", although I agree it'd be a bit ackward name for melee attacks.

EDIT: "Expertise" or "finesse" would be my suggestions, if "marksman" really needs to be changed.

Ranger M · Post by **Ranger M** » March 13th, 2006, 12:41 pm

I like finesse, it implies the same skill that marksman gives, and directly relates to melee.

Website · Post by **Sapient** » March 13th, 2006, 2:46 pm

zookeeper wrote:An elvish champion is supposed to be just as good with a sword as the marksman/silosophy sharpshooter is with a bow.

Is he? I think the elven race should have the best archers, but if any race should have the best swordsmen, it should be humans.

Does this mean a human cannot master the bow to the same level as an elven sharpshooter? Maybe so, if he is special, but not with normal recruits. Same thing for elves when it comes to sword mastery.

Dragon Master · Post by **Dragon Master** » March 13th, 2006, 6:58 pm

I second "finesse", but I still like my idea of "heartseek". This can imply a direct swordstrike to the heart, which is pretty accurate if your aiming there. It also works with a bow and arrow.

drachefly · Post by **drachefly** » March 13th, 2006, 7:01 pm

Heartseek a skeleton or ghost?

Dragon Master · Post by **Dragon Master** » March 13th, 2006, 7:03 pm

I dont really mean heartseek as in "strike the heart in a deadly blow", I mean "Aim for the heart". Even with a skeleton or ghost if you aim for its heart (or where the heart should be) your probably going to hit your target

Deathblower · Post by **Deathblower** » March 13th, 2006, 7:32 pm

Even with a skeleton or ghost if you aim for its heart (or where the heart should be) your probably going to hit your target

lol

Doesn't feel right though for a skeleton or ghost. Even with your description, it sounds like you are striking the heart I'm afraid.

DB

WTL · Post by **WTL** » March 13th, 2006, 8:30 pm

Has anyone suggested Weaponmaster?

Deathblower · Post by **Deathblower** » March 13th, 2006, 8:45 pm

I think this sounds more like a trait. Also, weapon could mean melee or ranged.

DB

SmokemJags · Post by **SmokemJags** » March 13th, 2006, 9:49 pm

A mock up of what some proposed ideas would look like.

Finesse > Expert for the melee version.
Marksman > Mastery for the ranged version.

I like finesse, but of course I like finesse, I was the first one to bring it up.

I'd bring up changing 'marksman' to 'crack shot', but that idea was shouted down.

I'm in favor of the 'melee' and 'ranged' versions being seperate entities, and I'd definitely go with the bottom example of leaving marksmanship alone, and simply calling the melee version 'finesse'.

Ranger M · Post by **Ranger M** » March 13th, 2006, 9:57 pm

same here, add my vote to that count.

SmokemJags · Post by **SmokemJags** » March 13th, 2006, 10:20 pm

Start a poll, that's the best way to keep a count.

Though it seems to be often mistaken for trying to get new features into the game by a simple 'majority rules' method.

Deathblower · Post by **Deathblower** » March 13th, 2006, 10:43 pm

Finesse and marksman - perfect. As long as some finessed units are made within the game, eg. elvish champion.

DB

jonathantan86 · Post by **jonathantan86** » March 14th, 2006, 1:15 am

Hmm...what happened to the "accurate" idea brought up in the first page? I think that's a good name and would apply equally well to both melee and ranged. I think that having two different names for the same thing would be confusing.