Marksmanship Discussion.

[Tomsik]

We have "magical", so why not "accurate"? But if you really want noun "accuracy" is ok IMO.

[Noy]

Well that is the point. Markmanship does not necessarily mean that a person is only accurate, he may also know how to make a good bow, straight arrows, and how to best place an arrow, something acurate and precise do not connote.

Proficiency - X makes it clear that the unit is knows how to do these things.

The only effect the ability has on the game however is that the unit does strike more accurately. These reasonings you're providing seem to be addressing something else, like unit description.

Again read my above post, accuracy is an end effect, not the source of it. Accurate, may in some cases cover some of the answers, but its not expansive enough. Accurate does not in my mind go well with melee attacks in my mind.

Describing it as a mastery, proficiency in a weapon indicates this person has exceptional skill in its use, thus is able to hit more often. Thats why its a better fit, because it covers a wider range and is more descriptive.

[Cuyo Quiz]

Adjectives seems to be the way to go, just as in the same way a fireball is magical.

Err... Accurate, Skilled, Precise, Proefficient?.

I like Proefficient best, since when someone speaks about accuracy or precision in war-related contexts, normally is about ranged weaponry, as in the crossbow being more precise than the bow, since a bow bends the arrow slighty.

[Dragon Master]

How about something like "dead-on" or "Focus-strike", i dont know. some word for direct and another for hit
"Heartseek"?
"direct-strike"?
I dont know if this helps, im just throwing ideas out there

[Anyar]

Adjectives seems to be the way to go, just as in the same way a fireball is magical.

Err... Accurate, Skilled, Precise, Proefficient?.

I like Proefficient best, since when someone speaks about accuracy or precision in war-related contexts, normally is about ranged weaponry, as in the crossbow being more precise than the bow, since a bow bends the arrow slighty.

IIRC, crossbows were much less accurate then bows? I like Proficient though. Skilled doesn't really work well, because it implies that other units are less skilled, even though their stats would say otherwise.

[Cuyo Quiz]

In a crossbow the arrow goes out in a straight line, while in a bow, the back of the arrow is on the string, but the point is at one side of the bow. When the arrow was released, the arrow bent slighty to a side (which amde accuracyw ith it a matter of practice and feel). Crossbows also were stronger, and only an expert longbowman was comparable in single-shot accuracy and better at range.

Thanks for the support.

[Casual User]

I think there should be some symetry with 'marksman', since it's the same trait, only applied to melee.

How about you name it 'bladesman'?

[Zhukov]

Hmm, I suggest "Adept".

Adept can mean many things: expert, proficiant, accomplished, skillful, talented, masterful...that sort of stuff. I think people would agree that this is the kind of tone we are seeking. It also can fit both ranged and melee.
(Anyone thinking that this would clash with the "dark adept" unit should keep in mind that the DA is a poorly named unit, considering the meaning of the word.)

Another possibility that would make complete sense is "Veteran". But it doesn't sound so good

[Noy]

Hmm, I suggest "Adept".

Adept can mean many things: expert, proficiant, accomplished, skillful, talented, masterful...that sort of stuff. I think people would agree that this is the kind of tone we are seeking. It also can fit both ranged and melee.
(Anyone thinking that this would clash with the "dark adept" unit should keep in mind that the DA is a poorly named unit, considering the meaning of the word.)

Another possibility that would make complete sense is "Veteran". But it doesn't sound so good

Thats quite a good one. General consensus from people is Mastery.

[Glaucus]

"master-of-arms"?

[irrevenant]

"master-of-arms"?

The trouble with that is that it's a weapon special, not a unit ability.
"Master of Arms" implies high skill with all weapons, not just the one.

As such, "Mastery" is better, IMO.

[Glaucus]

I see your point but I think "mastery" and some of the other suggestions are ambiguous. It really needs something to define it as a close combat trait. For example "melee/combat master" which don't sound that good but leave little doubt as to what the unit is good at. It is hard to come up with a name that sounds good and fits well considering all the units and weapons the term needs to encompass. What about "gladiator" or my personal favourite but not really a serious suggestion "Jedi".

[irrevenant]

I see your point but I think "mastery" and some of the other suggestions are ambiguous. It really needs something to define it as a close combat trait.

There seems to be a little confusion as to whether we're looking for a term to cover both melee and ranged, or just a melee counterpart to ranged.

"Mastery" (or, if you want an adjective, "master") is an attempt at the former.

[Deathblower]

The first post says that we are to look for a word for a melee attack with marksmanship.

Therefore a word specifically to do with melee.

DB

[irrevenant]

The first post says that we are to look for a word for a melee attack with marksmanship.
Therefore a word specifically to do with melee.

Yeh, but the thread broadened in scope early on.

Pity, I just thought of another word to cover both: "Elite".

Alright, for melee only how about "Champion".