Neorice's Unit Thread! (I need attention; you can give!!)

SmokemJags · Post by **SmokemJags** » March 9th, 2006, 3:12 am

There already is a dark elf campaign...
"Dark_Elves"
"Lead Varish'na through the caves to find the truth about the Dark Elves. And while your at it, defeat the Dwarvish scum."

I've played it. The dark elves are interesting. The rampant bugs (played with 1.0.2) are not.

Edit: You suck Raven, beat my post by a single minute!

On the topic of some of the units displayed here...
What's the deal with the Chaos Faction? Is there a thread around here somewhere about their progress for making it into the game or have they been forgotten? Seems like they have enough units and they seem fairly finished...

Oreb · Post by **Oreb** » March 9th, 2006, 3:38 am

GRRRARR, MY POST!

Anyway the Chaos Faction have been used in a campaign,
the Restoration of Wesnoth

So I say they have been used already

SmokemJags · Post by **SmokemJags** » March 9th, 2006, 3:49 am

I meant adding them to the 'default' multiplayer faction.
I read somewhere that drakes got added in a similar fashion.
If the Drakes are in the default faction as a lawful army, I think it would be nice to see Chaos in there as a chaotic one.
Actually maybe not...

Drakes and loyal are the lawfuls.
Rebels and dwarves are the neutrals, though rebels has some lawful leaning.
Notherns and undead are the chaotic.

Adding chaos would make it 2,2,3.
Someone needs to make a new lawful faction to maintain the balance... if this reason for not including the chaos is infact related to this balance.

JW · Post by JW » March 9th, 2006, 4:48 am

Smokemjags, I'm guessing the main reason they aren't being added to mainline (as of yet?) is because it would require massive rebalancing, another official faction to maintain, and a lot more artwork (unless all the animations are in fact complete). I believe there was dispute over the damage types the faction was based on, but I am unsure of this because I haven't played them or researched them in depth.

Anyway, Drakes are Lawful with Chaotic Saurians...a factions alignment has nothing to do with whether it is added or not. The reasons are far less superficial.

SmokemJags · Post by **SmokemJags** » March 9th, 2006, 7:10 am

is because it would require massive rebalancing, another official faction to maintain, and a lot more artwork (unless all the animations are in fact complete).

Yea, about that. Where exactly is all that being done? I haven't seen anything along the lines of any of that being done on the forums. I kinda like them and wouldn't mind contributing to getting them added in as an 'official' faction, but... there's no threads or talk about it anywhere on these forums that I can see.

Alks · Post by **Alks** » March 9th, 2006, 12:14 pm

SmokemJags wrote: Where exactly is all that being done? I haven't seen anything along the lines of any of that being done on the forums.

Few pages before there's a preview faction of what was put into forum. It lacks non-elemental archer line(though mages replace them without any problems) and some animations - but is fully playable.

Post by **turin** » March 9th, 2006, 10:46 pm

Of course, because any faction with reasonably well done art and stats gets in-game. That's exactly how it works.

I REALLY doubt any new factions (except the Saracens, because they're being designed specifically for the task) will be added to the Default era. What you need to do, if you want this faction in-game officially, is to make a completely new era that contains it. Example: the Imperial Era. I could see the Imperial Era being added to mainline eventually, if it got some better art, because it is self-contained. It doesn't mess with the default era at all. Or perhaps an era containing the frost elves, frost orcs, high elves, etc... or a post-apocalyptic one, with the desert elves... but single factions aren't going to be added to default.

Post by **Soliton** » March 9th, 2006, 11:19 pm

I might add: put it on the campaign server.
I at least am not reading the whole forum and trying everything posted to it out to see what it's worth and if I might want to add it to mainline. However I do occasionally try out eras available on the campaign server.
Also someone simply has to ask or make any effort in the direction of getting a new faction included. Things don't happen magically by themselves usually. I sometimes get the feeling that that's what some people expect.

Post by **Neoriceisgood** » March 10th, 2006, 6:20 pm

I have exams within a month, so the chaos legion is on hiatus; didn't I tell this already? I could swear that I did.

SmokemJags · Post by **SmokemJags** » March 10th, 2006, 9:43 pm

didn't I tell this already?

You probably did, but it was before my time and probably lost somewhere in these 16 pages.

Skizzaltix · Post by **Skizzaltix** » March 21st, 2006, 4:11 pm

Neoriceisgood wrote:Wooh! The useless unit designs strike again!

The Saurians need Cold One riders!

Disto · Post by **Disto** » March 21st, 2006, 4:34 pm

Neoriceisgood wrote:I have exams within a month, so the chaos legion is on hiatus; didn't I tell this already? I could swear that I did.

Not in this thread.

Skizzaltix · Post by **Skizzaltix** » March 21st, 2006, 6:56 pm

Yes he did. Around page 14.

Oreb · Post by **Oreb** » April 2nd, 2006, 9:32 pm

Skizzaltix wrote:Yes he did. Around page 14.

Well no one seemed to notice, anyway

JW · Post by JW » April 2nd, 2006, 10:37 pm

The Raven wrote:Well no one seemed to notice, anyway

I noticed.

I like Neo. I think he's the best unit image creator here with maybe 2 or 3 other people around his level.

ps, I like his Trolls.