New amazon faction

Post by **turin** » November 24th, 2005, 1:27 am

The Raven wrote:Good Idea, not game worthy

Basically all current faction ideas are not game worthy.

Since most factions are created with the understanding that they'll never be put in-game, I don't see this as a problem.

Post by **Noyga** » November 24th, 2005, 1:31 am

For the war cry, i don't remember Temuchin's idea.
I would view it as a ranged cold attack with low damages and slow.
I think Leadership makes sense too for this faction.
I would rather see those two a mounted units.

Heres is how i currently view the faction :
- a fighter line : low HP & resistance, lots of strikes, skirmisher (not sure for level 1), bladed weapons (axe+sword)
Maybe with an alternative branch with more hp, fewer but more powerfull strikes and without skrimisher... I'm not sure we need it.
- an armored fighter line : spear+shield that will gain firstrike and steadfast
- an archer line, something between loyalist and elvish archers
- 3 mounted line :
* a mounted spearwoman line... Level 2 & 3 will have a net too
* a mounted axewoman line with charge and war cry at level 2 or 3
* a mounted archer line with a torch ...
Maybe leadership for the level 3 (or for the previous line, maybe as an alternative branch)
Curently, i have something like that... (didn't modified the archers yet...)

Oreb · Post by **Oreb** » November 24th, 2005, 1:32 am

alot of people now are just making factions for multiplayer, but not for campaign

The extras that should be excepted are that are completed:

Desert Elves
Wild Elves
Marauders
Levidians
Aragwaith
Dark Elves

Any more?

Assasin · Post by **Assasin** » November 24th, 2005, 1:39 am

The Dark Elves are not completed yet. They still need to be balanced some, and there are a lot of graphics missing. They are playable, but they are not complete.

Post by **turin** » November 24th, 2005, 1:59 am

The Raven wrote:The extras that should be excepted are that are completed:

Desert Elves
Wild Elves
Marauders
Levidians
Aragwaith
Dark Elves

Any more?

"accepted", not "excepted". And "Lavinians", not "Levidians".

You missed the Kedari.

However, I strongly disagree with that list. No new factions should be added unless they are needed for a campaign.

Assasin · Post by **Assasin** » November 24th, 2005, 2:24 am

but you can't play the dark elf campaign without the dark elves....

Oreb · Post by **Oreb** » November 24th, 2005, 3:17 am

marauders in a seed of evil! Aragwaith in a New Order! Dark Elves in Dark Elves! Desert Elves in UtBS! Wild Elves in Working on a campaign! and so on and so forth

Temuchin Khan · Post by **Temuchin Khan** » November 26th, 2005, 6:10 pm

Noyga wrote:For the war cry, i don't remember Temuchin's idea.

I've actually mentioned it twice during the past ten or eleven months, but both times it was in other threads where the subject was raised, never in a thread of its own.

unsung · Post by **unsung** » November 27th, 2005, 2:30 am

Zhukov wrote:unsung's post would be enough to make an english teacher have a nervous breakdown.

unsung wrote: "meele"
"THye"
"har das,"
"thi swould mak ebalance."
Oh well, it made me smile.

(getting severly of topic here)

well, I had literally a few seconds to type it in before I had to go, and it's pointless to fix it now.

plus, that idea had me confused.

Temuchin Khan · Post by **Temuchin Khan** » November 27th, 2005, 3:33 am

Tell you what -- if the amazons have only one breast, I'll ask Turin to include them in the Imperial Era.

Post by **turin** » November 27th, 2005, 4:18 am

Temuchin Khan wrote:Tell you what -- if the amazons have only one breast, I'll ask Turin to include them in the Imperial Era.

I will include nothing that does not have graphics.

Also, I don't want to include more factions unless they add something gameplaywise... I don't see what the Amazons have. So far, they look like a pretty bland faction with 2-3 units too much.

But, if they get graphics and you convince me they are unique in some way, I'll add them. (This goes for any faction that I don't think is fundamentally flawed.)

Temuchin Khan · Post by **Temuchin Khan** » November 27th, 2005, 4:29 am

turin wrote:Also, I don't want to include more factions unless they add something gameplaywise... I don't see what the Amazons have. So far, they look like a pretty bland faction with 2-3 units too much.

Well, currently I think they would add something, if they were done right, especially if they had the "Parthian shot" ability that I've spoken of elsewhere, as I believe they should, given that the only branch of the Amazons of Greek myth for which archeological evidence has ever been found were nomads of Central Asia and Scythia.

However, if the Airiya ever get completed, I would have to agree, in that case, that Amazons would add nothing that the Airiya did not already have. So my support for the Amazons would depend on two conditions: (1) Art for the Amazons gets completed, (2) Art for the Airiya, perhaps the best-developed faction idea to still lack more than a minimal degree of art, is never completed.

Post by **Noyga** » November 28th, 2005, 6:20 am

I've started to make some graphics ... Here is probably the level 3 Warrior.
I'm not still totally happy with it, but i think it is a good start

Post by **Neoriceisgood** » November 28th, 2005, 2:58 pm

The hat is sort of large; and the colour choise is a bit off in comparison to the rest of wesnoth; but appart from that it's very good.

Post by **Noyga** » November 28th, 2005, 6:09 pm

So far i have made two units.
I'm still not happy with the warrior, i need to reduce the size of the axe and finish the sword.

Yes the helm is a little big, however the size of the head is almost the same size of lots of units.