Faction Observations: Who's the strongest? Who's the best?

guest · Post by **guest** » November 21st, 2005, 2:08 pm

use less wrote:
Doc Paterson wrote: I just love it when new players assume to know better than everyone else.
And I just love it when people judge by the number of the posts or date registration. So cute.

Yeah. I second that.

Doc Paterson wrote:I hope to see you on the server some time. You can play Undead, and you can choose my faction. Not trying to sound arrogant, but I do think some anti-undead education would do you good.

use less wrote:I'm looking forward meeting you and all of those i-know-how-to-beat-ya-n00b players.

Do I hear a fight? Do I see the contestants gather to the ring? In one corner, D Pats, heavy weight of map design, and in the other corner the slightly less known, but confident, lord of the undead! Ladies and gentlemen, this may prove to be the fight of a lifetime...err... of the day.

Maybe.

Besides, how about if I choose the map? Or the gold and XP settings? How easy it is to rig a match just by choosing the circumstances...

Post by **Noy** » November 21st, 2005, 5:25 pm

use less wrote:
Doc Paterson wrote: I just love it when new players assume to know better than everyone else.

(Most of us have already been through that phase.)

I hope to see you on the server some time. You can play Undead, and you can choose my faction. Not trying to sound arrogant, but I do think some anti-undead education would do you good.

And I just love it when people judge by the number of the posts or date registration. So cute.
I'm looking forward meeting you and all of those i-know-how-to-beat-ya-n00b players.

What you might not realize is that most of us play a lot of Wesnoth, and since the community is quite small, the best players tend to gravitate towards each other. Very very very rarely are new players able to compete against experts. Most of the time they just get splattered as experts leverage their knowledge of the game to crush them. Thats even more so against Undead which are likely one of the most difficult factions to play with... which leads me and others to be all the more skeptical about your claim that you will give us an education.

use less · Post by **use less** » November 21st, 2005, 6:01 pm

Noy wrote:
use less wrote: And I just love it when people judge by the number of the posts or date registration. So cute.
I'm looking forward meeting you and all of those i-know-how-to-beat-ya-n00b players.
What you might not realize is that most of us play a lot of Wesnoth, and since the community is quite small, the best players tend to gravitate towards each other. Very very very rarely are new players able to compete against experts. Most of the time they just get splattered as experts leverage their knowledge of the game to crush them. Thats even more so against Undead which are likely one of the most difficult factions to play with... which leads me and others to be all the more skeptical about your claim that you will give us an education.

Was there an invitation to teach you in gaming?
I merely said what I said, nothing more nor nothing less. It's your problem if you read between the lines.
Undead is one of the most difficult races to play. People often think it's an easy target, and that's wrong. You may think whatever you want, it doesn't concern me at all.
PS Although such activity among "veterans" is a bit interesting.

Post by **Doc Paterson** » November 21st, 2005, 8:00 pm

use less wrote:[And I just love it when people judge by the number of the posts or date registration.

I love that too.

Post by **deserter** » November 21st, 2005, 8:22 pm

Paterson has 500 posts and for example EP has 7000... That logically means that EP is about 14 times better player than Doc here.

Post by **Doc Paterson** » November 21st, 2005, 8:45 pm

Use Less, I see you on the server, but I can't figure out which game you're in......

That'd be a nice feature to implement- Click on the player name and it'd tell you which game they're in.

Oreb · Post by **Oreb** » November 21st, 2005, 9:06 pm

my rating of factions:

1. Elves use them lots and unlock their hidden power
2. Dwarves these guys are rock solid
3. Loyalists they are good
4. Undead are so cheap
5. Northeners alright
6. Drakes overpowered and to weak in defense

JW · Post by JW » November 21st, 2005, 11:39 pm

The Raven wrote:4. Undead are so cheap
5. Northeners alright

This made me smile.

Huche_wawa · Post by **Huche_wawa** » November 24th, 2005, 12:08 am

the dwaves are the best hands down, there is no way to stop six or so grypons when they dart around a map and take all your villages.

and people say that dwaves are to slow but they can move through harsh terrain much quicker than anyone else can.

Post by **Doc Paterson** » November 24th, 2005, 2:08 am

Huche_wawa wrote:the dwaves are the best hands down, there is no way to stop six or so grypons when they dart around a map and take all your villages.

Assasin · Post by **Assasin** » November 24th, 2005, 2:28 am

Doc Paterson wrote:
use less wrote:[And I just love it when people judge by the number of the posts or date registration.
I love that too.

yeah, if that was the case, I should be better then Doc here.

Which I'm not

Martinus · Post by **Martinus** » November 24th, 2005, 4:38 pm

use less wrote:
Doc Paterson wrote: I just love it when new players assume to know better than everyone else.

(Most of us have already been through that phase.)

I hope to see you on the server some time. You can play Undead, and you can choose my faction. Not trying to sound arrogant, but I do think some anti-undead education would do you good.

And I just love it when people judge by the number of the posts or date registration. So cute.
I'm looking forward meeting you and all of those i-know-how-to-beat-ya-n00b players.

Doc Paterson is probably playing BFW about 2 times longer than you.

I didn't play BFW for a long time so i can't tell anything more right now...besides that i need to start playing again

Post by **Doc Paterson** » November 24th, 2005, 6:37 pm

Martinus wrote:
use less wrote: And I just love it when people judge by the number of the posts or date registration. So cute.
I'm looking forward meeting you and all of those i-know-how-to-beat-ya-n00b players.
Doc Paterson is probably playing BFW about 2 times longer than you.

I didn't play BFW for a long time so i can't tell anything more right now...besides that i need to start playing again

New players tend to have an inflated sense of their abilities and knowledge. I think this is pretty well established. I've tried to find Use Less on the server, but have still, to date, had no luck. There's no need for other people to jump in and make this into more of a drama. Because really, it's nothing big at all.

So, how about that original topic?

On this Thanksgiving Day, let us be thankful for THE NORTHERNERS.

Elvish_Pillager · Post by **Elvish_Pillager** » November 24th, 2005, 7:10 pm

no, let's be thankful for low traffic.

toms · Post by **toms** » November 25th, 2005, 5:03 pm

Undead are strong.
But if you get Ã‚Â´em at the right point they are weak...
(Mages can kill them all, except for the adept (who is lost against a ulfserker

) )