Drakes vs undead?

STNA NarSissi · Post by **STNA NarSissi** » September 16th, 2005, 10:33 pm

Well how to start... I love the undead and havent played so much with drakes but it seems that undead have some edge if u use good tacticks and protecting ur dark adeps... Darks kill drake at 1 attack at night and 2 adeps are enough kill then at neutral time and sometimes at day time allso and useing corpses and some melee units or archers to back them up u really can defend them well... it seems that -50% cold is heavy compared -20% fire that undead have... and skirmishers are not good at all if undead player have those skeletons there... maybe burners can do something but u have to be carefull useing them. As I said I love undead most and have strategies agains all factions with them but i haven figure really good strategy with drakes agains undead... I m not saying that they are overpowered maybe i m just bad with drakes

I have to start useing them... dark adeps are really the only weapon agains the drakes...

ereksos · Post by **ereksos** » September 17th, 2005, 3:25 am

i agree that in a stand still fight, undead has the upper hand with their dark adept and skel archer. which is why a different strategy other than using brute force has to come into play when using drake. in general, drake has great mobility while undead barely crawl. this advantage, if properly utilize, will make a difference in the game.

Tux2B · Post by **Tux2B** » September 17th, 2005, 7:16 am

Drakes are weak against cold attack.

Tippsey · Post by **Tippsey** » September 17th, 2005, 2:29 pm

Hmm this kinda problem has often come up and for the moment it might be balanced. Just use drake warriors to combat the adepts it's probably your best chance of killing them off.

Ankka · Post by **Ankka** » September 17th, 2005, 2:34 pm

Tippsey wrote:Hmm this kinda porblem has often come up and for the moment it might be balanced. Just use drake warriors to combat the adepts it's probably your best chance of killing them off.

and perhaps a skirmisher or two if they're protected and weakened. At night they do better than those fighters.

NightBlade · Post by **NightBlade** » September 19th, 2005, 7:58 am

Yeb, drake warrior is the best choice, I've done a testing with Tippsey and it turned out that drake warrior is good against dark adept(make sure you use melee). Good luck and have fun!

Shadowdweller · Post by **Shadowdweller** » September 19th, 2005, 8:23 pm

Yep.

Certain factions have an inherent advantage against other factions. The key issue I think is that this doesn't mean victory is assured by any means. Undead are good against Drakes. But Knalgans in turn (when played semi-competently) are very strong against undead.

Elvish_Pillager · September 24th, 2005, 3:11 pm

Knalgans are strong against Undead but Undead are strong on their own, and match Knalgans. Undead are no longer overpowered too much, but they have not lost their quality of being quite powerful in the right hands...

The typical Undead strategy against Drakes is nothing like the typical Undead strategy. One of the reasons I still don't like Drakes...

Post by **Noy** » September 27th, 2005, 11:46 am

Shadowdweller wrote:Yep.

Certain factions have an inherent advantage against other factions. The key issue I think is that this doesn't mean victory is assured by any means. Undead are good against Drakes. But Knalgans in turn (when played semi-competently) are very strong against undead.

Uhh no faction is "inherently" stronger than each other. Each has a balance against any other faction.

Cuyo Quiz · Post by **Cuyo Quiz** » September 28th, 2005, 12:11 am

The typical Undead strategy against everything is not the typical Undead strategy.

It is like the Void element of The Five Rings, some sort of intuitive, instinctive illumination that comes with the mastery of the other principles/elements.

Logan · Post by **Logan** » October 2nd, 2005, 9:53 am

The typical Undead strategy against everything is not the typical Undead strategy.

It is like the Void element of The Five Rings, some sort of intuitive, instinctive illumination that comes with the mastery of the other principles/elements.

I disagree. The undead seem to be the most dangerous enemy in the known universe. Even a novice can bring unholy death upon his enemies with those things.

And now my drake-sided opinion:
undead units dont have much health, but they're numerous, and zombies are a pain (but drake zombies look awesome, so maybe it's worth losing to see them :p), But hit them hard and hit them fast. Use ranged weapons (burners) on ghouls to defend against their poison, and the opposite for Dark Adepts.
The only serious threat to everything is the boneshooter *shudder*. Hit them with everything you've got, and maybe you can steal a win.

martenzo · Post by **martenzo** » October 2nd, 2005, 4:27 pm

Those bone shooter are nasty for drakes, but hey, that where multifaction teams are handy. Souls shooter are a nightmare, I once had a game, me vs my sister, she was undead, I was orcs. I had a bunch of trolls and tried to break through the skeleton lines. However, I was unlucky and got 3 troll whelps (of 8 ) killed and 2 of her skel archer leveld up and began the rolling snowball effect as I call it (rookies start dying and veterans start getting a heavier weight on their shoulders). as a result, my entire troll army (8 whelps, 3 trolls, 4 warriors) was wiped out by the total of 5 skeletons and 6 skeleton archers. Lost that game in the end.

Logan · Post by **Logan** » October 3rd, 2005, 6:30 am

Those bone shooter are nasty for drakes, but hey, that where multifaction teams are handy.

Those Bone Shooters are nasty for everyone!