Erk's Castle Workshop

[Velensk]

I may be approuching this the wrong way, but I've always took the rough castle with wooden walls dirt and a tent to be a "war camp" as in the place where you soldeirs would pitch their tents. Sort of like what the roman legions where famouse for doing: temperary forts. So although that does look very good it does not quite fit that image with the stone floor, but then again I might ahve always had the wrong impression on what that was supposed to be and that does look realy nice.

[mog]

I may be approuching this the wrong way, but I've always took the rough castle with wooden walls dirt and a tent to be a "war camp" as in the place where you soldeirs would pitch their tents. Sort of like what the roman legions where famouse for doing: temperary forts. So although that does look very good it does not quite fit that image with the stone floor, but then again I might ahve always had the wrong impression on what that was supposed to be and that does look realy nice.

This is not supposed to be a replacement for the current encampment. It's some kind of intermediate between human castle and encampment.

And as I wrote, the floor is temporary. I simply used the castle tile as a placeholder.

[Velensk]

In that case, very good I like the look of it.

[Erk]

Looks pretty good:


But you need to adjust the spacing of the top and/or bottom towers. And we obviously need a better base tile.

You don't need additional WML for straight sections, because as you can see, there are no really straight sections. Just drawing the concave towers in the same orientation as the convex ones should be enough.

I suggest calling this castle "Fortified Encampment" (I used Cf as terrain letter)

Yeah, the NE and NW corners need work. After fixing their alignment I'll rearrange the walkways to be running around the back of the towers instead of the sides, move the towers in to line up with the SE and SW, and fix the out of alignment walk across the back.

Now that i have my home PC I opened up wesnoth and saw what you meant about no straights. For some reason, my mental picture of a 7-tile "round" castle had straight edges. Well, good to know that was just confusion. Thanks for making a demo for me

[Iris]

Um, if someone could write the WML for this terrain, be it known that I'd be really pleased to know.

[turin]

For the floor of the castle, it might be a good idea to use the "dirt" tile. The only problem with that is it might make it look like the inside was made of mud.

But grass wouldn't work either (both because it doesn't make a whole lot of sense and because it makes it really hard to distinguish the terrain - I'm sorry to say that I rarely use the beautiful elven castle because the floor of it I find distracting and too much like grassland).

Clearly the tiled floor doesn't work so well, though...

What about a slightly more solid-looking dirt tile? Failing that, I'd probably vote for the plain old dirt terrain, it's not perfect but it will probably be decent.

Also, what's the plan for the keep of this terrain? Are you going to make it a single object, like the tents of the encampment, or the throne of the dwarven castle, or a complicated wall like the keeps of the human and elven castles? I think either could work.

[ael193]

i say keep the stone, it looks like the wall for a town or somthing, we already have a dirt flored stocade. i realy like how its coming. i would like to see the desert castle with the minarets finished.

[turin]

i say keep the stone, it looks like the wall for a town or somthing,

Uhm...

What kind of a town would to the expense of paving every single square inch inside their walls and yet not make the walls entirely out of stone?

[scienceguy8]

I'd rather prop up and nail wooden planks than mortar and lay potentially hundreds of stones as a wall.

[Erk]

I'd rather prop up and nail wooden planks than mortar and lay potentially hundreds of stones as a wall.

That wasn't Turin's point though... why pave the entire town but not make a stone wall? Wouldn't building a stone wall take precedence if you're going to be laying stone and building a town wall at all?

I'm going to make a custom or semi-custom floor tile anyway, so the discussion is a little moot. If I can make it look nice, it will be hard packed dirt paths among other dirt; I might also try to decorate it with small buildings and stuff.

The keep, I think, will be a standalone building. I haven't decided what style yet.

[Jetrel]

For the floor of the castle, it might be a good idea to use the "dirt" tile. The only problem with that is it might make it look like the inside was made of mud.

Jetryl and Freim say:

We need a new dirt tile; one which isn't dark/rich enough that it looks like mud.

[irrevenant]

Is this any use? It's a simple play with the brightness, contrast, saturation etc. of the standard dirt.

(The unit is the prototype desert elf being worked on in this thread).

[West]

Is this any use? It's a simple play with the brightness, contrast, saturation etc. of the standard dirt.

With some more variation in texture and maybe a few tufts of grass, I think it could work just fine.

[Erk]

Wooh. As my sig says, unreliable. If the wesnoth project is still interested in more keeps, I can get in and finish this off sometime. Anyone interested?

[Shadow]

My personal opinion? Go for it. Would be a pitty if you don't finish it.

Btw welcome back unreliable one.