Dark Elves

[Hearold]

Pretty darn powerful.

About the pictures, it looks weird when, in the changes down the right side, the guy's swords go from straight to scimitarish. Does he change swords or something?

[Assasin]

i made some changes on the stats above and i thought that the death lance might be to high so i didn't increase it that much. what do u think about 8-2 at lvl 1 and 12-3 at lvl 2

Not 12-3, 11-2.

Hearold: A scimitar is a more powerful, deadly weapon, therefore he upgrades to it.

[Ryorin]

Not bad, I like the idea of Dark Elves fighting with the Dwarves. The art is pretty good, but the advancement paths need a little work. Aside from this one thing you got yourself a good idea.

[Nyr Oagorith]

hey, i made a topic on this and its probably still in the back....

oh well whatever i havent been on so...

dark elves vrs dwarves is a pretty good idea...but its not really dark elf style, but who decides these things...

[Hearold]

Hearold: A scimitar is a more powerful, deadly weapon, therefore he upgrades to it.

Thank you for explaining that to me, but unless it's explained in the game, people might get confused.

[Belwar]

Not 12-3, 11-2.

its going to be 12-2 at second level because the first level it does 10-2 damage.

and guys we are also rigoreusly(sp) changing the pic's but its kind of hard when ones computer craches. so we wont be able to create pics for about a week but were working on them. the pics shown on the last page are just drafts and are still in the revising stage. keep the criticism coming its helping me, assasin, and warrior king a lot.

[Disto]

Yeah, well if you want to send the more revised version to me a couple of days before you post them i'll see what i can do to improve them, no promises though.

[Belwar]

the problem all of the pics were on assains computer wich crashed so we wont have pics for about a week. but ya well send them to you before we post them.

[Assasin]

My computer didn't crash, it is virtually impossible on a Mac, the hard drive blew up. Thankfuly I got all of my data off, I'm just waiting for a new hard drive now.

[Rhuvaen]

I'm not altogether convinced Wesnoth needs Dark Elves

The purpose of the race would be to add a dark side to the game that is an offspring of the goodguys.

If you want that, why not add to the existing OUTLAWS to make them a separate faction? I think most of the concept of this race would fit with an extended outlaw faction (which would need a proper faction name, obviously), with a special cave-dwelling unit or so added.

It's often more constructive to add to what's already there than to bring something entirely novel into the existing Wesnoth world (just remember the Drake discussions!). And it would help the Knalgans get rid of some odd company in order to finally team up with their barbarian (marauder?) fellows.

And most importantly, who needs more ELVES - sheesh.

[Elvish_Pillager]

And most importantly, who needs more ELVES - sheesh.

I'd actually like to see several seperate 'tribes' in each race. For instance, Humans can be divided into Loyalists and Outlaws (and perhaps soon Mercenaries and Marauders), and Elves can be divided into Wood Elves and soon High Elves. Variety is cool.

I don't particularly like 'dark elves', though... why are they so much better than dark humans? Or dark drakes?

[khamul]

And most importantly, who needs more ELVES - sheesh.

I'd actually like to see several seperate 'tribes' in each race. For instance, Humans can be divided into Loyalists and Outlaws (and perhaps soon Mercenaries and Marauders), and Elves can be divided into Wood Elves and soon High Elves. Variety is cool.

I don't particularly like 'dark elves', though... why are they so much better than dark humans? Or dark drakes?

Elves have been around a long time, and they're adaptable. We have (in the works) High Elves on plains, and Desert Elves on sand (although I admitt they're not canon). Elves cope better in the dark than humans do.

WINR, I know, but in this world successful species spread to new habitats and adapt to survive and thrive there. I see no reason why Elves wouldn't spread to the cave networks beneath Wesnoth, and, in time, diverge from their surface brethren. Humans just don't do as well underground, on account of needing light. Dark Drakes? Why not - but tight crawling tunnels isn't the best place for fliers...

Underground elves makes sense to me. Dark Elves seems as good a name for such a race as any other.

I'm not quite sure where they'd get the feathers they wear in their hats, though. Dark Chickens?

[turin]

Elves need light just as much as humans do. Also, it would be nigh-on-impossible for them to adapt to caves, since they are the worst race in caves (most of them move only 1 on caves per turn). If they went down there, they would quickly come back up, if they were still alive.

The idea of a dark elf, in this situation, seem to me like basically a direct copy from DnD that has no real purpose in Wesnoth. High Elves, Desert Elves, Marauders and Mercenaries all make much more sense.

[Assasin]

No one said you have to like the idea turin.

We just want to make a campagin of the Dark Elves. The Wood Elves use light magic, and the Dark Elves have fallen away from the light and become evil (hey, what's wrong with evil?). If the devs like it, they can add it to MP. If not, just let people enjoy the campagin.

Oh, the reason the current elves don't do good in caves is because their use to forest. If they were forced to go down to caves, they would adapt because they are very intelligent.

[Warrior King]

outlaws and mercenaries sound cool, i like the idea and the artwork. but like assasin said, we want to make the campaign for fun, because the dark elves WILL be an awesome race.