Legend of the Invincibles

[Dugi]

I have finished writing chapter 7. It contains 15 scenarios + 1 talk only.

Its story is a bit stereotypic, a dark power is rising, sending endless armies of monsters against all living in order to take control of the entire world. The campaign is harder than previous ones, if you think that you can send a leader into a mob to destroy them all, you will lose quickly, your units advance quickly, but enemies hit really hard. It is finished by several tricky boss fights. There are also several RPG-styled scenarios like Across the Barren Land in chapter 6, but this time, you will not have to wait excessively long till the enemies make their moves. Chapter 7 is longer (same number of scenarios, but they are longer, there is 60% more code, the code is the longest from all chapters, and is also more effective than in most other chapters) and in my opinion better than chapter 6. My inspiration was this song.

Because I don't want to reply to questions about the gameplay, I will post here a walkthrough. Don't read it if you are not in trouble.

Spoiler:

SPOILER WARNING: DON'T READ THIS UNLESS YOU ARE IN TROUBLE AND HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO PROCEED

General advice: You will fight chaotic units a lot, so you should get a lot of sources of illumination. Try to keep your loyals alive, they will be greatly useful in several leader-only passages. Use the redeem ability a lot, it adds new advancements, and becomes capable to absorb enemies with higher levels, later it gets also an area of effect. If you neglect it, you will run out of useful advancements, and low level enemies to redeem will get quite rare. Add some generally useful advancements first, like improved regeneration, healing, leadership, penetration of a preferred resistance.

Scenario 1 (Another Orcish Assault): Easy, you use your bosses to kill as many orcs as possible, pawn the rest with recruits/recalls, destroy the catapults. You have to destroy 3 of the 4 catapults because the count sometimes fails (see the number of shots falling to determine how many of them was destroyed). It is recommended to use recruits and recalls a lot, and kill as many enemies as possible with redeem.

Scenario 2 (Search for Elves): Cover your leaders, the enemies will hit hard. There is quite a few potent enemies, but if you move slowly, nothing bad should happen. Don't forget to get some healers, you will need to move and villages are quite rare. The target is in the top right corner of the map (northeast).

Scenario 3 (Corruption): Defeat all enemy leaders. Nothing complicated, but they are quite strong. Split your army into three directions, two of the armies should be led by your leaders, one should delay the last enemy. Use the ally's units as cannon fodder. Don't forget to keep your leaders covered, enemies can destroy them quite quickly.

Scenario 4 (Last Survivors): You will meet some enemies at the start, they will not be too tough, but don't forget to take cover, they hit hard. Then proceed north, and you will encounter more enemies and an ally. Defeat the enemy on the left to make your work easier, send a few powerful units to help the allies, and then attack the northern enemy (defeating the northwestern enemy is not necessary). Be careful, behind the mountains, there is an additional enemy. Use the elves you received in scenario 3 to fight them in the forest.

Scenario 5 (Tundra): Recruit/recall as man units as possible, also a lot of Snow Hunters, this will be a long scenario with endless enemies and no upkeep, excellent for getting exp. Travel north until a mountain range. Then the place will be covered with snow, use Snow Hunters to explore it. Pull enemy mobs on your other units, you're not too likely to defeat them just with Snow Hunters. To the west from the snow, there is a flat terrain you can use with other units. Build a keep if you run out of units. The target location is on the northern edge of the map, somewhat east from the centre (the moutain pass covered with snow and therefore impassable). There is a cave you have to enter.

Scenario 6 (Where the Flames Freeze): Kill the undead and proceed north. There will be a lot of chambers on the sides of your path, explore them, there is a lot of treasure. Before reaching the frozen river, you should find an abandoned keep. Use it to recall some units, not necessarily too many, but you cannot do the end only with leaders. You will encounter some enemies by the frozen river, but it should be quite easy. When you get to the southwestern corner of the map, head up north and you will find some dwarves fighting some more enemies. Defeat the enemy leader, that's easy enough. He has nightstalk, so he might appear unexpectedly.

Scenario 7 (Subterranean War): Like in scenario 3, but this time, you have to defeat only one enemy. Let the dwarvish allies get pawned by the sides you don't need to defeat, and attack those on the north with all force, they will go down quickly.

Scenario 8 (Eruption): Recall nothing or only a few units, proceed slowly and in a pack. In turn 4, a group of enemies will appear on the keep, but don't care about that. You don't need t proceed too much north, and you will learn where the enemies went from, and you will have to proceed east. But, the lava lakes will become more active than ever. The lava will start flowing from them, destroying everything. You should avoid leaving units near the expanding lava all costs, lava deals tons of damage and traps units. Pick a random path, and head southeast. Almost all paths lead there, but there is a lot of chambers with treasures. Looting them is greatly dangerous, because of the lava. You may split up, but be careful that the undead might be annoying, especially if the lava is near and you cannot walk on fighting.

Scenario 8 talk (Neighbours): Have a nice chat, there is no way to lose this scenario

Scenario 9 (Den of Evil): Recall a lot, especially a lot of healers. Then hurry up, before the resistance gets too strong. If you defeat an enemy leader, you will be as usually rewarded by an item, but this time, also a new enemy spawn point will appear. Behind you. Be prepared to fight those before you and also those behind you, keeping Efraim or Lethalia behind may be useful because of their penetration ability and ability to survive a lot of damage. The whole scenario has the shape of a spiral, you have to get to the centre. Try to save some gold for later scenarios.

Scenario 10 (The Dragon and the Princess): Attack and kill the hopeless enemy and take his keep. Prepare units with slowing, units that hit very hard with a few attacks and some healers. Proceed, and you will find a boss. He is harder than he looks, but when you defeat him, you will learn who is the main enemy. She is quite strong, and tends to flee when a unit misses her, ending the combat. Encircle her to prevent her from fleeing form fights and she will go down easily.

Scenario 11 (Old F(r)iend): When the enemy gets hit, he will flee and open a chamber full of enemies. Because there is not keep, I suggest you to hit him as hard as possible every time. Craft some Widowmakers (the Dwarvish Hero can deal over 100 damage with Widowmaker), if you have an Executioner's Axe, use it too. The main problem is that each time he survives, an group of enemies will come to delay you, giving him time to regenerate. If you fail to kill him after 11 hits, he will flee. If he flees, you win anyway, but you will not discover a secret (secrets discovered will have an influence on an important dialogue in late chapter 9).

Scenario 12 (The Last Enemy): Again the same boss as the second one in scenario 10, but this time much stronger. Recruit units that have a high chance to hit, get some units with slow and some healers. Make sure to destroy all illusions even if you learn which one is correct, they hit hard and don't disappear when hit in retaliation. This way, you should not take too much damage.

Scenario 13 (Avengers): Defeat all enemy leaders. There will be a lot of them, recall a lot, also some cannon fodder, and try to finish early, you will need some extra gold in the next scenario.

Scenario 14 (Arctic Wastelands): A hardcore version of the Tundra scenario. Nights will be terrible, so make sure a night will not catch you while getting through snow or another harsh terrain. Almost all enemies are chaotic, and during nights, also spirits with nightstalk appear. Move only during the first day or when the day is coming, to make sure you will not attract a nasty spawn and have to fight with it at night. Also use scouts to learn what is around you, and attack nightmares (you will quickly learn what they are) if they approach to make sure they will not kill some of your units before. When a snow storm comes, try to get into a cave. Caves are usually not large enough for your entire army, so you might either split up or build some igloos. Fighting during a snowstorm isn't a really bad idea, with enough healers' support and cold resistance, it can be survived, and enemies will deal much less damage (especially during daytime). You may use the 'teleport units to Efraim' trick to get through hard terrains (if Efraim has improved his movement and obtained levitation, this will be much more effective). The target cave is on an iceberg that is connected with the land with snow-covered plains, it is a bit east from the centre of the top corner edge of the map.

Scenario 15 (Annihilation): Smash the first leader, use his keep to recall anything you can, and destroy the second leader. Hurry up, the enemy side is getting income all the time. Then proceed further, and you see the last enemy again. Have a nice chat, then kill her like before, she is not as strong as she used to be. But then she will possess another unit. You will see how much energy she has, every time you slay the enemy she was possessing, two enemies will appear and she will possess another unit randomly. When she runs out of energy, she is dead and you have won. Congratulations.

It is available both for 1.10 and 1.11.

Known bugs:
Dwarvish units except Dwarvish Lord don't advance past their usual maximum level. That is simply because I have not drawn them yet, it will be done soon, I did not want to delay the release.
The game freezes for several seconds at the beginning of the player's turn. That is because the save files are quite large, and it takes some time to the computer to create them.

[Faerie_Storm]

played the first scenario and I found 2 bugs, the female Celestial messenger gets an image not found frame when attacking, and she is called a Mage of Light instead of celestial messenger.

[AxalaraFlame]

Bro, do you have a chronological history text for your stories of "the invincibles"?

[Dugi]

played the first scenario and I found 2 bugs, the female Celestial messenger gets an image not found frame when attacking, and she is called a Mage of Light instead of celestial messenger.

Neither of them is related to that scenario... Fixed.

Bro, do you have a chronological history text for your stories of "the invincibles"?

These stories are quite related one to another and there is enough information to locate it into the timeline:
Chapter 3: Princess Asheviere was young here, so this happened several decades before Heir to the Throne.
Chapter 2: Five years before chapter 3.
Chapter 1: Thirty years before chapter 2. Therefore about sixty years before Heir to the Throne.
Chapter 4: When the second sun was being raised. This is mentioned by many other add-ons, and probably happened like 1000 years after Heir to the Throne and the previous chapters of LotI.
Chapter 5: Shortly before the Fall, that took place maybe 2000 years after the rise of the second sun.
Chapter 6: Very long after IftU, UtBS and other things, so it might be like 10000 years after the Fall.
Chapter 7: Ten years after chapter 6.
Chapter 8: Fifteen-twenty years after chapter 7 (because of some events to happen here, these parts must be long after everything)
Chapter 9: Right after chapter 8.
Chapter 10: Right after chapter 9.
Epilogue - during chapters 8-10
Those written in italic are not written yet and details might be adjusted.

If you were asking about something else, reply.

[AxalaraFlame]

No, that is rather logical and clear : ) What is a little bit confusing are these "before"s. I guess you want to say chapter2 happens 5 years "after" chapter3, and chapter1 happens 30 years "after" chapter2, or the chapter2 and 3 took place across this whole period of time?
Sorry for bad English...

Another thing is, I wonder(if I understood it right), why don't you arrange all chapters chronologically, or replace chapter 3,2,1 as 1,2,3?

[Dugi]

Because chapters 1 and 2 contained no clues when did they happen, only what is the time gap before them. In chapter 3, it has been revealed when it was happening. So you could tell when chapters 1 and 2 happened only from the position of chapter 3. I might have it written also like this:

Chapter 1: No clue.
Chapter 2: Thirty ears after chapter 1.
Chapter 3: Five years after chapter 2, by the time when Asheviere was young, therefore like 30 years before Konrad stole her throne. Therefore, chapter 1 happened like 65 years before Konrad stole her throne.
...

But the logical nuances would be kinda missing, but from the other hand, the events in chapters 1 and 2 are not related to cannon lore (I mean other campaigns), so it does not really matter when they happened (they are only related to later events in Legend of the Invincibles).

[axds123]

chapter 7 is really good

[Konrad2]

inicerate: remains after proceeding in next scenario

bug for lethalia: upgrade for making staff stronger from 18-6 to 19-6 has no image

[nuorc]

I just updated and replayed from the autosave from last page: EdC still gets full MP after storing the potion.

Edit: Another unit stored a potion later and had regular MP left; dunno...

Some questions about Escape from Oblivion:

Spoiler:

I'm not supposed to go past 15,11/16,11?
I'm supposed to see the green bat at 18,20?
I'm not supposed to enter the tunnel that obviosly leads up to it?
thx

[Dugi]

inicerate: remains after proceeding in next scenario

Oops, yeah, forgot, fixed.

bug for lethalia: upgrade for making staff stronger from 18-6 to 19-6 has no image

Typo, fixed.

I just updated and replayed from the autosave from last page: EdC still gets full MP after storing the potion.

Practically any changes made by an update will not take place if you reload a save file. Most of the changes take place when you start a new scenario (including this one), but some will be delayed for much longer. I have written this several times in this topic (but I suppose reading the over 600 posts is not people like to do)

I'm not supposed to go past 15,11/16,11?

What do you mean? You are supposed to go there, there is just nothing interesting.

I'm supposed to see the green bat at 18,20?

Oops, wrong coordinates given, fixed.

I'm not supposed to enter the tunnel that obviosly leads up to it?

One hex represents maybe tens of metres, and nobody can leap that far, not even floating fairies, because of the whirling vents that are created above hot lava. I can slightly redesign that map if it particularly annoys you, I know that it might not impossible to dash on lava (if it is not too hot).

[nuorc]

Practically any changes made by an update will not take place if you reload a save file. Most of the changes take place when you start a new scenario (including this one), but some will be delayed for much longer. I have written this several times in this topic (but I suppose reading the over 600 posts is not people like to do)

ok & sorry; I've read about "delayed" updates before, I wrongly assumed this storing code would be different.

I'm not supposed to go past 15,11/16,11?

What do you mean? You are supposed to go there, there is just nothing interesting.

I mean that I actually can't move any unit on 15,11 or 16,11, and because of that I can't see or move past that point.

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I'm not supposed to enter the tunnel that obviosly leads up to it?

One hex represents maybe tens of metres, and nobody can leap that far, not even floating fairies, because of the whirling vents that are created above hot lava. I can slightly redesign that map if it particularly annoys you, I know that it might not impossible to dash on lava (if it is not too hot).

I have two ghosts which go everywhere nicely, so lava hexes aren't my issue.

I just had another look: there isn't a tunnel. The cave wall shows an outside wall where it hits the stone wall; I believe it should be black.

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[Dugi]

ok & sorry; I've read about "delayed" updates before, I wrongly assumed this storing code would be different.

Almost all updates are 'delayed'. Only unit appearance and advancement updates, lua updates (lua is rarely used in LotI, actually only to display statuses zombified and incinerated, and you have probably encountered neither of them), graphical updates and preload updates (these are not used, but actually could allow me to modify LotI to get updated whenever when loaded, but it would actually cause even more mess) can affect something in older save files (maybe also something else, but don't care about it).

I mean that I actually can't move any unit on 15,11 or 16,11, and because of that I can't see or move past that point.

Hm, somehow you were really disallowed to go there. No idea why it was like that, I removed it now.

I just had another look: there isn't a tunnel. The cave wall shows an outside wall where it hits the stone wall; I believe it should be black.

This terrain transition is a part of the game's core. I first started messing with terrain graphics in chapter 7. Wall-cavewall transitions are not much used, so you just probably haven't seen it before.

Edit: Fixed the mentioned bugs, added a new unit, Dwarvish Protector, as an advancement to Dwarvish Sentinel (Berserker and Dragonguard are still missing advancements), made it into 2.3.1, a new version.

Any feedback about chapter 7 difficulty?

[p013121]

I think you should have kept the difficulty on intermediate so that players who are not experts can carry on with the story, it sucks to get chapter six done then not be able to find out what happens next

[Dugi]

Is it so bad? Isn't switching to easy difficulty enough to be able to get through it? Which scenarios were particularly difficult and have to be made easier?

[p013121]

I strugggled mainly due to the severe weakening of efraim and lethalia