Hurt and Heal: Campaign Boss Villains (SPOILERS!)

[Yeran]

Asheviere (HttT) - 4 (+1)
Mal M'Brin (TSG) - 6
Landar (LoW, SoF) - 6
Mal Ravanal (EI) - 6
Khrakrahs (EI, SoF) - 4
Karrag (THoT) - 6
Darken Volk (DiD) - 4
Earl Lanbec'h (SotBE) - 5
Shan Taum (SotBE) - 5
Jevyan (TRoW) - 5
Rakshas (NR) - 4
Yechnagoth (UtBS) - 15 (-1)
Iliah Malal (DM) - 5
Sagus (DM) - 5
Zorlan (DM) - 5

To me Asheviere is still the villian with the most reasonable career and behavior. I actually like the idea of a weak main villian who isn't capable of beating anyone hand to hand. The alliance she formed however is huge.
Taking from Yechnagoth on the other hand is not exactly fair, as there are a lot worse villians listed, but as soon as one villian got tree times the points of the others it gets boring, expecially since I'm still believing there was no greater scheme behind her deeds and she just did what she had to do to keep the campaign running. Additionally the words she chosed were quite often downright stupid.
Notice thats nothing against the campaign itself as I totally loved the level-design and all the triggers - its definitely one of my favorite campaigns. Still I missed some reasoning regarding the main villian as I felt way more threatened by raising waters (great mission!) or some undead in the desert than her. Maybe it was just too hard to top prior scenarios.

[The_great_new_thing]

Asheviere (HttT) - 4
Mal M'Brin (TSG) - 5(-1)
Landar (LoW, SoF) - 6
Mal Ravanal (EI) - 6
Khrakrahs (EI, SoF) - 4
Karrag (THoT) - 6
Darken Volk (DiD) - 4
Earl Lanbec'h (SotBE) - 5
Shan Taum (SotBE) - 5
Jevyan (TRoW) - 5
Rakshas (NR) - 4
Yechnagoth (UtBS) - 16(+1)
Iliah Malal (DM) - 5
Sagus (DM) - 5
Zorlan (DM) - 5

TSG is just a beginners campaign.

Yechnagoth, on the other hand, is an extremely unusual villain.

[Aethaeryn]

Asheviere (HttT) - 4
Mal M'Brin (TSG) - 5
Landar (LoW, SoF) - 6
Mal Ravanal (EI) - 5 (-1)
Khrakrahs (EI, SoF) - 4
Karrag (THoT) - 6
Darken Volk (DiD) - 4
Earl Lanbec'h (SotBE) - 5
Shan Taum (SotBE) - 5
Jevyan (TRoW) - 5
Rakshas (NR) - 4
Yechnagoth (UtBS) - 17(+1)
Iliah Malal (DM) - 5
Sagus (DM) - 5
Zorlan (DM) - 5

I don't really like EI.

[Araja]

Asheviere (HttT) - 4
Mal M'Brin (TSG) - 3 (-2)
Landar (LoW, SoF) - 6
Mal Ravanal (EI) - 5
Khrakrahs (EI, SoF) - 4
Karrag (THoT) - 6
Darken Volk (DiD) - 4
Earl Lanbec'h (SotBE) - 5
Shan Taum (SotBE) - 5
Jevyan (TRoW) - 5
Rakshas (NR) - 4
Yechnagoth (UtBS) - 17
Iliah Malal (DM) - 5
Sagus (DM) - 5
Zorlan (DM) - 5

Mal is something of a standard baddie lich, and I don't know enough about the others to join in.
So I'll just hit him as hard as I can.

[Espreon]

Asheviere (HttT) - 3 (-1)
Mal M'Brin (TSG) - 3
Landar (LoW, SoF) - 6
Mal Ravanal (EI) - 5
Khrakrahs (EI, SoF) - 4
Karrag (THoT) - 6
Darken Volk (DiD) - 4
Earl Lanbec'h (SotBE) - 5
Shan Taum (SotBE) - 5
Jevyan (TRoW) - 5
Rakshas (NR) - 4
Yechnagoth (UtBS) - 18 (+1)
Iliah Malal (DM) - 5
Sagus (DM) - 5
Zorlan (DM) - 5

[ShikadiQueen]

Asheviere (HttT) - 1 (-2)
Mal M'Brin (TSG) - 3
Landar (LoW, SoF) - 6
Mal Ravanal (EI) - 5
Khrakrahs (EI, SoF) - 4
Karrag (THoT) - 6
Darken Volk (DiD) - 4
Earl Lanbec'h (SotBE) - 5
Shan Taum (SotBE) - 5
Jevyan (TRoW) - 5
Rakshas (NR) - 4
Yechnagoth (UtBS) - 18
Iliah Malal (DM) - 5
Sagus (DM) - 5
Zorlan (DM) - 5

Reason already stated.

[thespaceinvader]

Asheviere (HttT) - 0 (-1)
Mal M'Brin (TSG) - 3
Landar (LoW, SoF) - 6
Mal Ravanal (EI) - 5
Khrakrahs (EI, SoF) - 4
Karrag (THoT) - 6
Darken Volk (DiD) - 4
Earl Lanbec'h (SotBE) - 6 (+1)
Shan Taum (SotBE) - 5
Jevyan (TRoW) - 5
Rakshas (NR) - 4
Yechnagoth (UtBS) - 18
Iliah Malal (DM) - 5
Sagus (DM) - 5
Zorlan (DM) - 5

What can I say, I think SotBE is one of the more interesting campaigns overall.

Also, FATALITY!

[A-Red]

Mal M'Brin (TSG) - 3
Landar (LoW, SoF) - 6
Mal Ravanal (EI) - 5
Khrakrahs (EI, SoF) - 4
Karrag (THoT) - 7 (+1)
Darken Volk (DiD) - 4
Earl Lanbec'h (SotBE) - 5 (-1)
Shan Taum (SotBE) - 5
Jevyan (TRoW) - 5
Rakshas (NR) - 4
Yechnagoth (UtBS) - 18
Iliah Malal (DM) - 5
Sagus (DM) - 5
Zorlan (DM) - 5

Another point for Karrag, who is probably the most interesting *concept* for a villain after Yechnagoth, and is a bit more interesting as a character than most.

Lanbec'h deserves some credit for being human, but for a guy who physically appears in four or five levels, not much is done with him as a character.

I'm guessing that most people don't know any more about the three DM villains than I do, based on how undisturbed they've remained.

[AI]

Mal M'Brin (TSG) - 3
Landar (LoW, SoF) - 6
Mal Ravanal (EI) - 5
Khrakrahs (EI, SoF) - 4
Karrag (THoT) - 7
Darken Volk (DiD) - 4
Earl Lanbec'h (SotBE) - 5
Shan Taum (SotBE) - 5
Jevyan (TRoW) - 5
Rakshas (NR) - 4
Yechnagoth (UtBS) - 19 (+1)
Iliah Malal (DM) - 5
Sagus (DM) - 5
Zorlan (DM) - 4 (-1)

I'm guessing that most people don't know any more about the three DM villains than I do, based on how undisturbed they've remained.

Iliah Malal is a crazy (living) necromancer who enters the land of the dead and opens a portal to the living world.
Sagus is a royal advisor who gets replaced by Delfador, then gets his daughter (Asheviere) to steal Crelanu's book and becomes a lich.
Zorlan is yet another orcish great chief masterminding some invasion.

[lostnumber]

Mal M'Brin (TSG) - 3
Landar (LoW, SoF) - 6
Mal Ravanal (EI) - 5
Khrakrahs (EI, SoF) - 4
Karrag (THoT) - 7
Darken Volk (DiD) - 4
Earl Lanbec'h (SotBE) - 5
Shan Taum (SotBE) - 5
Jevyan (TRoW) - 5
Rakshas (NR) - 4
Yechnagoth (UtBS) - 20 (+1)
Iliah Malal (DM) - 5
Sagus (DM) - 5
Zorlan (DM) - 3 (-1)

The dark Lady will rule all

[Zarel]

Mal M'Brin (TSG) - 3
Landar (LoW, SoF) - 6
Mal Ravanal (EI) - 5
Khrakrahs (EI, SoF) - 4
Karrag (THoT) - 7
Darken Volk (DiD) - 4
Earl Lanbec'h (SotBE) - 5
Shan Taum (SotBE) - 5
Jevyan (TRoW) - 5
Rakshas (NR) - 4
Yechnagoth (UtBS) - 18 (-2)
Iliah Malal (DM) - 5
Sagus (DM) - 5
Zorlan (DM) - 3

Still don't see why you think Yechnagoth is so amazing. Oh, wow, the deity that acts nothing like a deity and tells you to do evil stuff turns out not to actually be a deity! How surprising! Plus, I just found pulsing spires to be a bit too much of a departure from the rest of Wesnoth.

[Skrim]

Mal M'Brin (TSG) - 3
Landar (LoW, SoF) - 6
Mal Ravanal (EI) - 5
Khrakrahs (EI, SoF) - 4
Karrag (THoT) - 7
Darken Volk (DiD) - 4
Earl Lanbec'h (SotBE) - 5
Shan Taum (SotBE) - 5
Jevyan (TRoW) - 5
Rakshas (NR) - 4
Yechnagoth (UtBS) - 16 (-2)
Iliah Malal (DM) - 5
Sagus (DM) - 5
Zorlan (DM) - 3

Seriously, one villain cannot be that much better than the rest.

[silent]

Mal M'Brin (TSG) - 3
Landar (LoW, SoF) - 6
Mal Ravanal (EI) - 5
Khrakrahs (EI, SoF) - 4
Karrag (THoT) - 7
Darken Volk (DiD) - 4
Earl Lanbec'h (SotBE) - 5
Shan Taum (SotBE) - 5
Jevyan (TRoW) - 5
Rakshas (NR) - 4
Yechnagoth (UtBS) - 14 (-2)
Iliah Malal (DM) - 5
Sagus (DM) - 5
Zorlan (DM) - 3

I would not say Yechnagoth is the best, good, but not that great

[Darkmage]

Mal M'Brin (TSG) - 3
Landar (LoW, SoF) - 6
Mal Ravanal (EI) - 5
Khrakrahs (EI, SoF) - 4
Karrag (THoT) - 7
Darken Volk (DiD) - 3(-1)
Earl Lanbec'h (SotBE) - 5
Shan Taum (SotBE) - 5
Jevyan (TRoW) - 5
Rakshas (NR) - 4
Yechnagoth (UtBS) - 15(+1)
Iliah Malal (DM) - 5
Sagus (DM) - 5
Zorlan (DM) - 3

For me the best one is Mal/in keshar, he really did a DiD(no jokes please ), i like to see the two faces of a coin his good intention but the means of dark magic, sometimes you feel like doing what you think is correct[and sometimes is] but people deny your actions, your(in this case) sister hates you to her most and so your family and and anybody you have ever known including that ****ard of darken volk, but what you have done is saving their lives from the orcish raid, tragically enought for me, but dunno now he's dead... so i got to chose others... Yechnagoth for me is quite ok for villian, yechnagoth is different for most, is not only it's appearance but its ways, it has controlled some races and joined all of them with the belief of a common god, it has created a sect between the humans, subdued the always higly feared undead/necromancers, also to the nagas and saurians. The most i liked of yechnagoth is that it was pure manipulation of beliefs, and not brute force(as happens with the orcs) humans created "the iron council" as a sect controlled by high guys but those useless puppets of the dark lady.

But i must admit yechnagoth wasn't really tough... Nym's fire flade was enough. i expected some kind of huge map lots of events, some spamming minions and a couple of guards. But still the story is quite good...


As i said brfore volk is hateable, and from the start i imagined malin were only a puppet and Darken Volk was the master of puppets... Somehow... predictable

By the way Karrag is also ok and the las scenario is long enough for well ending campaign...(but he only subdued part of the dwarves... realistic, but can't be compared with the dark lady)

[Yeran]

Mal M'Brin (TSG) - 3
Landar (LoW, SoF) - 6
Mal Ravanal (EI) - 5
Khrakrahs (EI, SoF) - 4
Karrag (THoT) - 7
Darken Volk (DiD) - 3
Earl Lanbec'h (SotBE) - 5
Shan Taum (SotBE) - 5
Jevyan (TRoW) - 5
Rakshas (NR) - 4
Yechnagoth (UtBS) - 13 (-2)
Iliah Malal (DM) - 5
Sagus (DM) - 5
Zorlan (DM) - 3

This fake-deity stuff just isn't new to you, if you read some fantasy-literature before and beside that one suprise she doesn't got much about her.