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The Elvish Lord wields his sword in his left hand, while facing right, but Kalenz has it in his left hand, while facing left, which implies that his left hand is his dominant.Elvish Pillager wrote:Quite so. However, one cannot simply remove one's armor and don one's second set of armor in the normal course of a movement. Therefore, if this is indicative of ambidextrosity, ambidextrosity has no meaning due to a difference in the fundemental layout of the world, excepting the fact that that the hands can indeed be distinguished and one judged to be dominant, ignoring the eccentricity of the world that allows arbitrary reflection. So which is his dominant hand?
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I don't see that at all. As a remote example, the storyline could even depend upon this point.Asereje wrote:Kalenz is not an alive person. He is a character in a videogame. Discussions about neural connections and hemispheric brain dominance of a character member of an imaginary race of a videogame are pretty absurd.
The portrait is cool.
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Left or right brain dominance has nothing to do with left- or right-handedness.
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"It is time people learned about their failures and my successes."
I think everyone when a little too far in the derailing.
At least let Jetryl end this chapter of the show of his life before going in with the comercials.
At least let Jetryl end this chapter of the show of his life before going in with the comercials.
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The sword is more practical than almost any other.Tux2B wrote:I've already held a sword in my hands, but I never used one to kill anybody.
I still think the sword is highly unpractical, but well, if you think it must be like this, just do it. I was, in fact, more thinking about swords in Lord of the Ring, which straight, and light.
About the sword held in both hands: it's not the case, for an example, of the elvish fighter's line, because they have a shield (in one hand: shield, in the other: sword).
OK. I don't want to bother you longer about it... If it wasn't an unpractical weapon, it would be a great one. And I definitely don't say the rest of the picture is bad, because that would be a lie.
The speed of the sword in a strike is dependent on the torque produced by the swing.
Torque=Force*Distance
Therfore, the farther apart your grip, the faster and harder you will be able to swing the weapon.
Also, the greater the part of the weight in the hilt, the better, because the best possible case is where all the weight is concentrated at the point of rotation.
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Nay. Firstly, if the distance becomes significant, the process of moving your arm can impede the force, and secondly, if you hold the opposite ends of the hilt at arms' length from each other, then you will not be able to swing the sword the same way (due to different muscles being used for the task, etc.) So it's hardly so simple. Also, force is not necessarially what you're going for with a sword; for instance, if you can swing it hard enough to bowl someone's head off with the flat of the blade, thus breaking the blade, you should be using a club instead. Swords are often more useful for bleeding people to death.Xan wrote:The speed of the sword in a strike is dependent on the torque produced by the swing.
Torque=Force*Distance
Therfore, the farther apart your grip, the faster and harder you will be able to swing the weapon.
It's all fun and games until someone loses a lawsuit. Oh, and by the way, sending me private messages won't work. :/ If you must contact me, there's an e-mail address listed on the website in my profile.
Try it yourself.Elvish Pillager wrote:Nay. Firstly, if the distance becomes significant, the process of moving your arm can impede the force, and secondly, if you hold the opposite ends of the hilt at arms' length from each other, then you will not be able to swing the sword the same way (due to different muscles being used for the task, etc.) So it's hardly so simple. Also, force is not necessarially what you're going for with a sword; for instance, if you can swing it hard enough to bowl someone's head off with the flat of the blade, thus breaking the blade, you should be using a club instead. Swords are often more useful for bleeding people to death.Xan wrote:The speed of the sword in a strike is dependent on the torque produced by the swing.
Torque=Force*Distance
Therfore, the farther apart your grip, the faster and harder you will be able to swing the weapon.
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Elvish he is right about the speed though. Because he's moving the pivot down the blade from hand that means that he is able to inflict more force for a lot less power from the self. Because on a normal blade the pivot is on the place in which the hand holds the blade their is only the force of the hand. So its only what they swing the blade with, but with the extra leverage. Look i was going into a long scientifical explanation when i came to a bit which i had forgotten 
. Lets just say you have a piece of wood with wholes every 5 centimetre, and it has a central hole where it is suspended on a pivot, and both sides are equal weights. When you put some weights on either side, the same distance from the centre and the same weight too, it still balances, but if you move one of the weights further from the centre it leans towards the further weight, if you move it in it leans on the further weight still, well with a sword the pivot is where it is being held, if properly balanced then hopefully you'll find a piece where you can balance it on one finger. Normally you would slash from the where you hold it, from the pivot, but as you have your other hand at the end of the long hilt, you'll be able to move the blade much faster and maybe more powerful, it'd be a hard weapon to use but in this case, it's a elf, and i think that it is within the quality of an elf to master a complex weapon to use.
. Lets just say you have a piece of wood with wholes every 5 centimetre, and it has a central hole where it is suspended on a pivot, and both sides are equal weights. When you put some weights on either side, the same distance from the centre and the same weight too, it still balances, but if you move one of the weights further from the centre it leans towards the further weight, if you move it in it leans on the further weight still, well with a sword the pivot is where it is being held, if properly balanced then hopefully you'll find a piece where you can balance it on one finger. Normally you would slash from the where you hold it, from the pivot, but as you have your other hand at the end of the long hilt, you'll be able to move the blade much faster and maybe more powerful, it'd be a hard weapon to use but in this case, it's a elf, and i think that it is within the quality of an elf to master a complex weapon to use.
One...last...try...
The fact that the hilt is a good part of the weapon and that the blade is sword-like means you don't have to balance the weight as much with your body, providing more speed for the weapon and more balance for you.
Big Curve Elvish War Machete.
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There, think of how you handle the pole of an axe. If you got it right you'll notice this weapon doesn't exactly slashes, but more like cleaves while the slight curve makes the cut easier.Jetryl wrote:The hilt is supposed to be long - this sword is not used like other swords, on attacking strokes, it's generally used with two hands, like an axe, except that it is much, much lighter and therefore much faster than a battle axe.
The fact that the hilt is a good part of the weapon and that the blade is sword-like means you don't have to balance the weight as much with your body, providing more speed for the weapon and more balance for you.
Big Curve Elvish War Machete.
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Further fixes... Something is still a bit funny about his breastplate - the embossing on the middle is fine now, but the far side is a bit too tall - doesn't curve enough near the end. Very slight - perhaps only a mm, but it's there.
(The eyes currently look a little funny because the ink is overlaying the old eyes, and the pupils did not yet get redrawn, meaning they are temporarily out of sync - don't worry about that. The outline of the eyes should be about right, now.)
In fact, I'm going to go so far as to even redraw the blade, hanging horizontally rather than vertically - I disliked that for the same reasons that xtifr did. That was what I had originally intended, but as I was drawing it, the vertical position seemed to be coming out so nicely, and I didn't want to mess with something that looked decent.
Ironically, this should clear up all issues with his forward shoulder, as it was designed to be holding a blade out a distance from his body - the failure of that now creates this escher-like thing where it seems to jut forward, yet meets with his other hand which is nearly touching his abdomen.
(The eyes currently look a little funny because the ink is overlaying the old eyes, and the pupils did not yet get redrawn, meaning they are temporarily out of sync - don't worry about that. The outline of the eyes should be about right, now.)
In fact, I'm going to go so far as to even redraw the blade, hanging horizontally rather than vertically - I disliked that for the same reasons that xtifr did. That was what I had originally intended, but as I was drawing it, the vertical position seemed to be coming out so nicely, and I didn't want to mess with something that looked decent.
Ironically, this should clear up all issues with his forward shoulder, as it was designed to be holding a blade out a distance from his body - the failure of that now creates this escher-like thing where it seems to jut forward, yet meets with his other hand which is nearly touching his abdomen.
Thanks - (cool avatar, btw).wayfarer wrote:The old one is good this one is better
Anyways, I've chiseled away at this some more. On the home stretch for the inking - I would have been done hours ago had it not been for a strange need to redraw parts of the image over and over again until they weren't an abomination of perspective. Remind me to fix all this crap before the drawing ever goes in my scanner, next time around.
I'm not so sure about that rear hand of his, but I am certain that I'm getting too tired to draw anymore. Cheerio.
