Rogue Mage

scott · Post by **scott** » August 23rd, 2004, 4:30 pm

Here is the level 2 rogue mage...

Years of violence and brutality to support the study of forbidden magical arts have turned the black mages into feared fighters. Now completely enthralled with power, they have been known to command small followings of henchmen. They are outmatched in direct magical combat with their magic-using peers, instead channeling their energies into devestating melee attacks. Despite their offensive power, the corruption in their souls has begun to adversely affect their health.

This is an intermediate drawing. I will be giving him a sword and maybe opening up his robe like with the L1. I wanted to get him out so the outlaw faction philosophy doesn't completely take over this thread! I see he has a purplish hue. I will try to make it more dark gray-blue. Of course, maybe he shouldn't be named the black mage if his cloak isn't black.

Bander · Post by **Bander** » August 23rd, 2004, 6:39 pm

Don't like it. He looks much too weak. And what happened to the sword?

Invisible Philosopher · August 23rd, 2004, 7:58 pm

wobbegong wrote:
scott wrote:I made him a righty. This might lead to better animations.
But surely a southpaw mage would be more sinister

Nonsense! In Wesnoth, graphics are mirrored left-right when a unit faces different directions, so all units change their preferred hand all the time. Or are ambidextrous.

scott · Post by **scott** » August 23rd, 2004, 8:15 pm

I know what I'm going to do... I will make the robe more into a cape and show his clothing underneath. It will allow a better stance. The hood will still be down by his neck, and YES I'm giving him a sword. I will keep the head and facial hair for now. It just takes me a long time to get anything to where it looks halfway decent.

PS he is a southpaw for magic.

scott · Post by **scott** » August 24th, 2004, 6:17 pm

OK. Still no sword yet, but I promise the next one will have it. I have a problem with this one in that he doesn't really look like a magician. In fact he could be a human ranger or something.
That and his pants blend into the cloak.

Post by **Darth Fool** » August 24th, 2004, 7:04 pm

His head is too tiny for a Wesnoth style graphics. Otherwise looking pretty good. although I don't really like the unit concept, I think the artwork could still be used.

scott · Post by **scott** » August 26th, 2004, 9:55 pm

Here is a refinement - bigger head, cloak covers him more, proportions adjusted.

And a defense (defence for our overseas friends) pose.

Also, I think he'll be called a shadow mage rather than black mage. I think "black mage" connotes an extreme that this guy doesn't necessarily go to. In fact, he is supposed to be the epitome of mediocrity.

scott · Post by **scott** » September 1st, 2004, 12:59 am

An update. I might leave him for now and start on an outlaw campaign so he and his L1 have a use.

Post by **Sangel** » September 1st, 2004, 1:28 am

"I'm coming Master Frodo!"

*Cough* Err... sorry. Couldn't help myself there.

Post by **Jetrel** » September 1st, 2004, 4:16 am

heh

Here's a suggestion, which has worked for me many times, and is one of the wonderful things about working on a free software project like this, because you can do it without people's permission.

Try copying in a face from another unit - verbatim.

The humans faces on sprite art of this scale can be a real [censored] to get right - why bother reinventing the wheel?

scott · Post by **scott** » September 1st, 2004, 6:39 am

I have come to accept that I may never be capable of producing "Wesnothish" art. The funny thing his that I took his head from the L1 mage, then I added a line of skin-color pixels at the bottom and more hair to make his head look bigger. I still think it's neat to see a creation be animated in-game.

Post by **Jetrel** » September 1st, 2004, 7:10 am

scott wrote:I have come to accept that I may never be capable of producing "Wesnothish" art. The funny thing his that I took his head from the L1 mage, then I added a line of skin-color pixels at the bottom and more hair to make his head look bigger. I still think it's neat to see a creation be animated in-game.

Don't give up, bud - it took me more tries than it has taken you to get as far as you have.

The problem was this - people said the head was too small, but they failed to know this fact themselves, and thus to say, exactly what part of the head was too small.

If you took the face from the mage, then it is fine - the problem started when you removed the hood, but failed to replace the part of the head that was hidden behind it.

This resulted in what "drawing on the right side of the brain" called "chopped-off-head" syndrome, a common error in drawing.

Post by **Neoriceisgood** » September 1st, 2004, 3:33 pm

Hey we started with the subject of "The right side of the brain" in art class today

"The chopped off head"-syndrome is that where people have like a face at right proportions; but if you look at the hair it just doesn't work; if you'd remove the hair there would not even be space for a forehead on the picture; or the behind is completely flat.

lilepo2023 · Post by **lilepo2023** » September 4th, 2004, 12:19 am

all the images ive seen so far look like ur tryin to mkae this guy look like a joke, outlaw mages should be a lot more like the dark adept, these are guys who got kicked out dude, not the poor peasent that we saw in pages one, or the monk in 4, if u guys ever read dragonlance make him look like raistlin, fer those who didnt make him like the dark adept, except more neutral, he should prolly be schooled in both fields jus because he isnt on the good side doesnt mean he is on the bad...

Post by **turin** » September 4th, 2004, 3:59 pm

lilepo2023 wrote:all the images ive seen so far look like ur tryin to mkae this guy look like a joke, outlaw mages should be a lot more like the dark adept, these are guys who got kicked out dude, not the poor peasent that we saw in pages one, or the monk in 4, if u guys ever read dragonlance make him look like raistlin, fer those who didnt make him like the dark adept, except more neutral, he should prolly be schooled in both fields jus because he isnt on the good side doesnt mean he is on the bad...

um... why should he look like the dark adept? It doesn't make any sense to me, the only way he is at all like the dark adept is that he is a mage and is not a lawful mage.

Make him look like a grey wizard with a sword.