Idea for Far East Faction

Shadow · Post by **Shadow** » June 9th, 2007, 11:52 am

Seiryu wrote:Appleide seems to have dropped Wesnoth...
So this era can no longer be continued...
Or if someone wants to take the artworks place then... maybe we can work out...

Perhaps you should just post what is finished.
Than we can look what is useable what is already lieing around and what must be still done.

Seiryu · Post by **Seiryu** » June 9th, 2007, 6:05 pm

Nothing has really been saved... apart the things which are on the forum...

Shadow · Post by **Shadow** » June 9th, 2007, 6:19 pm

Seiryu wrote:Nothing has really been saved... apart the things which are on the forum...

That doesn't make it easier. You shouldn note artists are layzy they want it a little bit more specific what you need else you can't expect much help. Not to raise any hopes but if someone buts some efffort into it he can perhaps expect some help.

Seiryu · Post by **Seiryu** » June 9th, 2007, 8:15 pm

Okay... then if anyone who would like to help me... or not... anyway... I'll restart from the era we have up to now...
The one we can download from the site...

EDIT: The Taki Era is not downloadable from wesnoth's site....

Temuchin Khan · Post by **Temuchin Khan** » June 10th, 2007, 4:01 am

No offense to those who have already worked on this era, but it seems to me that any artist who wanted to get on board with the project could justifiably set aside most of what has already been done and start from scratch.

Don't get me wrong, I like the art that has already been done for this era, so much so that I used to use one of the Taki images as my avatar, but most of it just doesn't fit the Wesnoth style.

Seiryu · Post by **Seiryu** » June 10th, 2007, 7:57 am

Okay... I've searched back to my documents... and I found what I could about the units' images:

Seiryu · Post by **Seiryu** » June 10th, 2007, 8:47 am

So... the unit tree will be (with name of the images):

Code: Select all

kikori lvl 0:
--->kengo lvl 1
--->samurai archer lvl 1

noumin lvl 0:
--->kenpo lvl 1
--->monk lvl 1

kengo lvl 1:
--->yoroi-a lvl 2
--->samurai-b lvl 2
--->asigaru lvl 2

samurai archer lvl 1:
--->tepou lvl 2

kenpo lvl 1:
--->ninja-m or ninja-f lvl 2

monk lvl 1:
--->komuso lvl 2
--->onmyou lvl 2

kiba lvl 1:
--->mounted samurai lvl 2

yoroi-a lvl 2:
--->yoroi-b lvl 3

samurai-b lvl 2:
--->samurai-a lvl 3

tepou lvl 2:
--->taihou lvl 3

ninja-m or ninja-f lvl 2:
--->ninja-super grade lvl 3

onmyou lvl 2:
--->hime lvl 3

Okay... I think I got them all... Tell me if I'm missing something...

Octavius · Post by **Octavius** » June 10th, 2007, 9:03 am

Temuchin Khan wrote:No offense to those who have already worked on this era, but it seems to me that any artist who wanted to get on board with the project could justifiably set aside most of what has already been done and start from scratch.

Don't get me wrong, I like the art that has already been done for this era, so much so that I used to use one of the Taki images as my avatar, but most of it just doesn't fit the Wesnoth style.

I agree with Temuchin. Like him, I meant no offence. Really, this faction has lots of potential. Though I have some personal opinions I'd like to share...

Don't you think that this faction reflects too much upon the real world? As in, its too similar to what we used to have in the past in the real world.

Seiryu · Post by **Seiryu** » June 10th, 2007, 9:14 am

Share your opinion... don't be shy^^

EDIT: I'll restart the units system from zero... because we lost everything...

Shadow · Post by **Shadow** » June 10th, 2007, 10:18 am

Ok I had a look at the graphics. They should be good placeholders at first. The biggest thing are the head and the size. Some Frankensteining and some stretches should make them a bit more confom with the rest (OK and some heavy extra shading).

Neo did something useful in the past perhaps they can be used too.

There heads can be used too some cut and paste jobs might help.

Seiryu · Post by **Seiryu** » June 10th, 2007, 10:20 am

Ok... then Thunder? Can I ask you to do the graphics please?
I'm working on the units...

Shadow · Post by **Shadow** » June 10th, 2007, 10:35 am

Uh well not so fast I've already got a butload to do.

but I can try to do some edits but you could help me if you give me a kind of Unit tree like this.
So I can see what is Lv1 and what advances from what.

Seiryu · Post by **Seiryu** » June 10th, 2007, 10:51 am

Argh... then don't worry... I'll do the art... 'cause you look too busy^^

Anyway... This era was Kafka's idea... he wanted to include the chinese faction also... So if someone wants to make it...

Temuchin Khan · Post by **Temuchin Khan** » June 10th, 2007, 1:41 pm

Seiryu wrote:Argh... then don't worry... I'll do the art... 'cause you look too busy^^

Anyway... This era was Kafka's idea... he wanted to include the chinese faction also... So if someone wants to make it...

Not exactly. Kafka wanted a combined Chinese/Japanese faction and got mad and left when the rest of us wanted distinct Chinese and Japanese factions.

He thought that if he made a combined Chinese/Japanese faction it would be accepted into mainline. We all know what the chances of that would have been....

Stargunner · Post by **Stargunner** » June 10th, 2007, 2:13 pm

Temuchin Khan wrote:
Seiryu wrote:Argh... then don't worry... I'll do the art... 'cause you look too busy^^

Anyway... This era was Kafka's idea... he wanted to include the chinese faction also... So if someone wants to make it...
Not exactly. Kafka wanted a combined Chinese/Japanese faction and got mad and left when the rest of us wanted distinct Chinese and Japanese factions.

He thought that if he made a combined Chinese/Japanese faction it would be accepted into mainline. We all know what the chances of that would have been....

It would be too unfair! With Samurai and Ninjas on the same faction, no one would beat them.