Ancient Egypt

[Huche_wawa]

for myth units i thought:

Ises:

the sphinx

Anubis:

the jakel guys

Osirus:

some kind of water guy since hes god of the nile

Horus:

???

Ra:

giant eagle

[Cuyo Quiz]

The Egiptians held it together very well, so i don't think an inner fight would be appropiate. May be fitting for a campaign i don't know.

Where was that unit tree... oh yeah Casual already did it. I would like to brainstorm on the more priestly matters too though.

[unsung]

they once had a war with the higher and lower kingdoms didn't they?*

*I twisted that somehow. 2 hours of history was too much for me to remember.

[Temuchin Khan]

The Egiptians held it together very well, so i don't think an inner fight would be appropiate. May be fitting for a campaign i don't know.

Egypt was not unified until Menes. Central power fell apart in the first, second and third intermediary periods. Plenty of Egyptian civil wars in those eras!

I screwed up on Set's head, but I know the general outline of Egypt's history.

So will there be two or three Egyptian armies, each with different priests serving different gods and/or with different mythological creatures, but with the same basic troops?

Hmmm. Actually, it's probably a good idea to put the Egyptians in an era of their own. Deserts to east and west, the Mediterranean Sea to the north, Nile cataracts to the south -- ancient Egypt was often its own little world!

[Temuchin Khan]

My book says Temuchin missed the mark with Set, he just has a greyhound head (if my dictionary translated lebrel right).

Actually, not only am I wrong, it seems that your book is only partly right. Set, it seems, was sometimes portrayed as a greyhound-headed god, sometimes as a hippopotamus, and sometimes as a man wearing a horned helmet. Or so it says in the caption to a picture of Set in a book a SHOULD have double-checked earlier....

[Cuyo Quiz]

But everyone loves animal heads!. And a hippopotamus?, that would be weird, i remember that small hippopotamus figurines were used for good luck.

[Temuchin Khan]

But everyone loves animal heads!. And a hippopotamus?, that would be weird, i remember that small hippopotamus figurines were used for good luck.

Well, we could still use the greyhound head!

Maybe the basic units could be the same in all the Egyptian factions, and then each faction would have a unique priest and a unique African animal and/or human-animal mutant.

For example, the faction that worshipped Sebek would have a priest of Sebek and a crocodile and/or a crocodile-headed man.

[Huche_wawa]

is wesnoth in the real world? no! so if they are in wesnoths world instead of the real world then i see no problem in a civil war

[Huche_wawa]

it could be the war between North and south Egypt between the red and white crowns with 3 gods on each side

[unsung]

is wesnoth in the real world? no! so if they are in wesnoths world instead of the real world then i see no problem in a civil war

the problem is it is a more or less HISTORICALLY BASED faction.
jeez, how many times must I repeat myself?

[Temuchin Khan]

is wesnoth in the real world? no! so if they are in wesnoths world instead of the real world then i see no problem in a civil war

the problem is it is a more or less HISTORICALLY BASED faction. :roll:
jeez, how many times must I repeat myself?

But Egypt was disunited before the reigns of Narmer and Aha (one of whom is thought to have been "Menes") and became disunited again during each of the three Intermediate Periods. Just because it was united and strong during the three Kingdom Periods, does not mean it was always united and strong.

I see nothing wrong with an Egyptian civil war era, or with having animal-headed monsters based on the ancient Egyptian gods.

[unsung]

I know, but he was talking about why you were arguin gin the first place.

[Jormungandr]

Set, it seems, was sometimes portrayed as a greyhound-headed god.

From what I've read, no one is quite sure what the "Set animal" is. It has a curved snout, upward-pointing square-tipped ears, and (when portrayed full-body) a stiff, upward-pointing tail. I suppose a greyhound is one guess; I've also seen it suggested to be an ass, or something else entirely.

Reasonably good image: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Egyp ... gy.Set.jpg

But I like the idea of an Egyptian faction; or, perhaps, two slightly differing factions for the Upper and Lower Kingdom equivalents that are at war. Since many of Egypt's gods had strong local cults (Set was originally the chief god of Lower Egypt, for example), a civil war provides plenty of juicy opportunity for units deriving their style or abilities from the different gods.

[martenzo]

I think that this faction sould be added to the imperial era and use normal units, like chariots, sicklemen etc. not some gods based mambo-jambo.

[Temuchin Khan]

I think that this faction sould be added to the imperial era and use normal units, like chariots, sicklemen etc. not some gods based mambo-jambo.

(1) Every single one of the normal units proposed for this faction has either been already made or already proposed for another as yet unmade faction. It would add nothing to the Imperial faction, assuming that the Kedari and the Persids get finished.

(2) "gods-based mumbo-jumbo"? (a) Are you trying to insult all religious people or just pagans? (b) As some have been arguing earlier in this thread, this is a fantasy game. Why not have some fantasy units in the Egyptian faction? We need not assume that they actually are gods, just that they resemble the ancient Egyptian gods. Ever seen StarGate?

(3) What's wrong with an Egyptian civil war era?

(4) Of course, we could have an era in which all the other factions are unified but there are two Egyptian factions with the same basic troops but different types of magic-users and/or creatures and/or animal-headed men.