Dragon Riders

scott · Post by **scott** » June 26th, 2005, 10:04 pm

Saddle.

Elvish_Pillager · Post by **Elvish_Pillager** » June 26th, 2005, 10:06 pm

And where do you put the saddle

scott · Post by **scott** » June 26th, 2005, 10:19 pm

Show me the wyvern you have in mind, and I'll show you where to put it.

Elvish_Pillager · Post by **Elvish_Pillager** » June 26th, 2005, 10:27 pm

scott wrote:Show me the wyvern you have in mind, and I'll show you where to put it.

lol.

Squig · Post by **Squig** » June 27th, 2005, 5:33 am

something like this?

Seiryu · Post by **Seiryu** » June 27th, 2005, 6:29 am

And for a female rider?... There...

Kamahawk · Post by **Kamahawk** » June 27th, 2005, 6:47 am

The only way one can ride a dragon is in its stomach (or in its claws).

Elvish_Pillager · Post by **Elvish_Pillager** » June 27th, 2005, 9:19 am

Squig's wyvern can't fly with the rider in that position, since it has no room for its wings.

Seiryu's wyvern can't fly at all, since it has no wings in the first place. In fact, it isn't even a wyvern.

Seiryu · Post by **Seiryu** » June 27th, 2005, 10:42 am

Elvish Pillager wrote:Seiryu's wyvern can't fly at all, since it has no wings in the first place. In fact, it isn't even a wyvern.

Sorry it is a women riding a water dragon so it can't fly.

Squig · Post by **Squig** » June 27th, 2005, 11:25 am

what about a nacelle tied on the wyvern's neck?

well, it couldn't be called a rider anymore

Tux2B · Post by **Tux2B** » June 27th, 2005, 12:22 pm

That would break his neck

Chris Byler · Post by **Chris Byler** » June 27th, 2005, 3:48 pm

Squig's wyvern can't fly either, its wings are much too small to carry its OWN weight, even neglecting the weight of the rider and the rider's gear.

Flying vertebrates (birds, bats, pterosaurs) all have one thing in common: small, light bodies and heads and comparatively huge wings. This isn't a coincidence. The dead weight of even an unarmed, unarmored goblin would be too much.

The rider's weight breaking the mount's neck or back is a good point too.

Multiplayer Scenarios / Campaigns · Post by **Rhuvaen** » June 27th, 2005, 3:55 pm

Chris Byler wrote:Flying vertebrates (birds, bats, pterosaurs) all have one thing in common: small, light bodies and heads and comparatively huge wings. This isn't a coincidence. The dead weight of even an unarmed, unarmored goblin would be too much.

Not if they were predators, then they could be expected to lift the weight of the prey and carry it off somewhere private out of sight from competitors. Whether such a beast could be tamed as a mount is a different matter, but all those creatures discussed here so far would fall into the predator category.

gryphonlord · Post by **gryphonlord** » June 27th, 2005, 4:57 pm

I think since dragons are understood to be magical creatures in the first place, flight should not be an issue. Wesnoth is not realistic, therefore it's okay to have a dragon with wings a little smaller than they should be. If you think about it, the largest flying birds in the US are swans, weighing around ten kilos. To support that weight they have a 2 meter wingspan. Using this model, a dragon weighing a ton plus a one-hundred-kilo rider would need wings 21 meters wide. That's too big to be reasonable.

Seiryu · Post by **Seiryu** » June 27th, 2005, 5:56 pm

Seems like we don't have any dragon riders. So what do we do continue the search for designs or abort the subject?