The longest awaited unit evar?

Post by **turin** » October 17th, 2004, 9:42 pm

Neoriceisgood wrote:Javelineer shouldn't be a ..what was it ? 11-3 ? It's to close to the bowman tree; perhaps it could have something evil like first strike on ranged attack?

what about even ranged - melee, like ranger... 9-3 melee, 9-3 ranged?

Neoriceisgood wrote:Anyway I must request for someone else to do animations; as I would seriously hang myself to this mouse because it is seriously screwed up.

I'll take a shot, but expect nothing...

Elvish_Pillager · Post by **Elvish_Pillager** » October 17th, 2004, 9:51 pm

Neoriceisgood wrote:Javelineer shouldn't be a ..what was it ? 11-3 ? It's to close to the bowman tree; perhaps it could have something evil like first strike on ranged attack?

It does have ranged first strike at level 3...

It also has insignificantly better melee, and much less ranged than a bowman.

Dave: Do you have reasons for wanting advancement to stop at level 2? If so, what are they?

Post by **turin** » October 17th, 2004, 10:04 pm

Here are images...

Post by **Neoriceisgood** » October 17th, 2004, 10:09 pm

Also one where he no longer has the spear; a throwing frame with no spear so to speak

Post by **turin** » October 17th, 2004, 10:11 pm

Neoriceisgood wrote:Also one where he no longer has the spear; a throwing frame with no spear so to speak

aye, i know... i couldn't get one to look right in only 5 minutes.

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well, here's a try...

Post by **quartex** » October 17th, 2004, 11:51 pm

If advancement stops at level 2 then you get a nice tradeoff , like wioth the lancer and the knight. That way we can make the javelineer more powerful to compensate for not having a level 3.

I understand why people want a level 3 version as well, not not all units need to go to level 3, and it would help make the unit tree more interesting.

Post by **Dave** » October 18th, 2004, 12:12 am

Shouldn't the frame where he doesn't have the spear involve an emphatic throw? i.e. with his back to the screen?

David

Post by **turin** » October 18th, 2004, 9:59 pm

Dave wrote:Shouldn't the frame where he doesn't have the spear involve an emphatic throw? i.e. with his back to the screen?

David

yeah, but i can't figure out a way to do that. it would involve having the left leg forward but the left arm in back, which is... odd.

if neoriceisgood or someone else wants to try it, please do.

Post by **Neoriceisgood** » October 18th, 2004, 11:47 pm

Sorry, buzy strangling my mouse.

dtw · Post by **dtw** » October 19th, 2004, 5:55 pm

would haupt-javalineer cut the mustard? are we allowed to use non-english words? or is haupt-javalineer an evil bastardisation of too many languages

i am in favour of it stoppping at 2 anyway - as long as this is reflect by a considerable hardness benefit AND a few more XP to get there

Post by **Darth Fool** » October 19th, 2004, 7:14 pm

turin wrote:
Dave wrote:Shouldn't the frame where he doesn't have the spear involve an emphatic throw? i.e. with his back to the screen?

David
yeah, but i can't figure out a way to do that. it would involve having the left leg forward but the left arm in back, which is... odd.

if neoriceisgood or someone else wants to try it, please do.

I will give it a try this evening.

Circon · Post by **Circon** » October 19th, 2004, 7:37 pm

dibblethewrecker wrote:would haupt-javalineer cut the mustard? are we allowed to use non-english words? or is haupt-javalineer an evil bastardisation of too many languages

i am in favour of it stoppping at 2 anyway - as long as this is reflect by a considerable hardness benefit AND a few more XP to get there

Stinks, IMO. Harpooner is decent.

If it stops at level two, we can't make it cost extra exp, and Javelineer will be the only name needed.

I vote we take out the swordsman from the spearman line at some point..

Post by **quartex** » October 19th, 2004, 9:00 pm

I don't think harpooning is a natural progression from javalineering. Unless the unit becuase an water unit and attack large sea mammals, it doesn't really make sense as a name for that line of units.

Post by **turin** » October 19th, 2004, 9:31 pm

Circon wrote:I vote we take out the swordsman from the spearman line at some point..

yes, and add even more unnecessary first level units...

Circon · Post by **Circon** » October 20th, 2004, 3:55 am

turin wrote:
Circon wrote:I vote we take out the swordsman from the spearman line at some point..
yes, and add even more unnecessary first level units...

No; make the swordsman not advance from anything. Those enemies who recruit swordsmen can still get them. I just don't see that we have anything reasonable to advance it from. (Spearman? How about Fencer, he has the right weapon!)