Abilities that have potential---

[JW]

Suvorov, that sounds like an idea proposed in the past, but it does sound like an ability that has potential.

You'll have to pardon my laziness if I haven't added any new abilities lately - there's been a lot of "philosophical" discussion about new ability proposals and how to go about implementing them.

To be honest, I'm not sure if this thread serves much of a purpose anymore other than to be a collection of ideas for UMC creators to brainstorm from.

Perhaps I or someone could post links to WML examples of how to do some of these abilities with the current system?
(that's a sneaky way of asking for links so I can edit them into the top post)

[drachefly]

Bleed: originally proposed by drachefly here

Coulda swore that was my idea...

it was. In the original 'burning' thread, I may have put in a few thoughts, but I doubt I devised that one either.

[Blarumyrran]

A unit with Mist ends battle after each unit gets one swing.

has anyone WML-ed that?

[Ken_Oh]

A unit with Mist ends battle after each unit gets one swing.

has anyone WML-ed that?

Yes, my Abilities Era has that in the Storm ability (technically it's a weapon special but it's really all the same stuff).

http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11999

That reminds me that I should list what from this thread has been done in the era, in order to help out anyone who sees this thread and then wants to use something. So, here is the list and what it's called in the era.

Lullaby: I did this under the Knockout weapon special but it's dependant on if a certain type of weapon hits.

Mist: This is listed as Storm. It ends the battle after both sides get one attack, but only on offense.

Mind flay: This is called Raid and it takes 2xp for every successful offensive attack.

Combo: This is called Ensnare.

Dread: This is listed as Dread.

Thorns: This is Spiked Armor. Attackers lose 3hp of damage against a unit defending with Spiked Armor.

Bloodlust: Bloodlust, where if a target is killed the unit is allowed another attack, is in the era but in the way the wiki ability example has it. However, the leadership effect Frenzy gives adjacent units +1hp for every strike landed, and it can even violate maximum.

Loner: Loner in the era simply means that the unit does 25% more damage in battle if there are no friendly units adjacent to it.

There are plenty more, so be sure to check them out for things you might want to do.

[Strom]

About retreat : maybe unit after attack returns to hex from it attacked.
I was thinking about bloodlust too and I got idea of cannibalism ability :
when some unit die and is standing on the hex next to unit with cannibalism ability the cannibal gets xHP.

[Ken_Oh]

Not exactly, but the Dash ability let you use any remaining movement points after you attack.

[cdjflip]

some of these sound like pokemon moves (lullaby)

if you dont mind me adding to the list,

Sheild: If enemy unit attacks, defensive unit can block one or more of the attacks (random % to block depending on several factors)

i came up with this just now after playing a scenario where i wished my swordsmen could actually do something with their shields against archers instead of being pricked to death.

[ylmson]

Sheild: If enemy unit attacks, defensive unit can block one or more of the attacks (random % to block depending on several factors)

This almost sound like simply bumping up the terrain defense ratings on defense, unless you are talking about using neighbor units to block, too.

Actually I wondered if the defense animation of some units with shield could incorporate a "shield block" variant, with different sound effects. So instead of dodging and enemy miss, sometimes you see the animation of yourself blocking with a shield and hear a "clang", that would be kind of cool.

[Velensk]

An alternative would be if your enemy attacks you he automaticaly gets one less attack. That would be an incredibly powerfull ability though.

[Ken_Oh]

Sorry guys, this isn't the thread do discuss abilities that you think have potential (or that I think have potential, for that matter).

[JW]

Sorry guys, this isn't the thread do discuss abilities that you think have potential (or that I think have potential, for that matter).

TBH, I'm not sure this thread is necessary anymore: just download Ken Oh's abilities era - I think it has all the abilities mentioned in the first post...

I certainly won't be maintaining this thread in the future, and haven't been for a long time.

WML can basically do anything anymore, so someone surely has coded something somewhere.

[Eldrik]

You could add links to ideas threads in first post. It would be convenient and would reduce noise in this topic.

[Thrawn]

Hmmm, if you want, I can see about unsticky-ing this/ creating a new one. By doing this, I'd be taking on keeping the FPI and BWH list updated as well.

[krotop]

You could add links to ideas threads in first post. It would be convenient and would reduce noise in this topic.

Isn't this already the case ?

@Thrawn : or make this thread a resource for ability downloads ? Unless Ken Oh's abilities era would become the official ressource ?

[JW]

Hmmm, if you want, I can see about unsticky-ing this/ creating a new one. By doing this, I'd be taking on keeping the FPI and BWH list updated as well.

Or you could just use mod powers to edit. I don't plan on updating it personally.

ps, I like krotop's idea where the WML is available.