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Wesnoth in Slovakia

Post by Viliam » September 7th, 2006, 10:24 pm

First, I am curious how many Slovak speaking players, or players living in Slovakia are here in forums. Second -- if I get a nonzero answer ;-) -- are there any ideas on how to promote Wesnoth in Slovakia / in Slovak language? Let's drop some ideas...

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Takže, po prvé: weby. Na českých weboch boli na Wesnoth Å¡tyri recenzie, na slovenských nič (okrem blogu mojej maličkosti). PrinajmenÅ¡om to tak vyzeralo, keď som naposledy gúgloval. Čo môžeme urobiť, aby sa po vyjdení verzie 1.2 tento stav zlepÅ¡il? No, asi môžeme dať niekomu echo, že hra existuje, prípadne poslať krátke tlačové vyhlásenie. Komu?

Je Å¡anca niečo pretlačiť do papierových médií? Alebo aspoň dostať tlačové vyhlásenie do TASR či SITA? ;-) To by bolo cool... Na druhej strane, regionálne noviny asi majú menej materiálov na publikovanie, takže by sa do nich skôr podarilo niečo takéto pretlačiť.

Čo tak blogy? Séria článkov na rôznych blogoch, v jeden deň, navzájom ich prelinkovať...?

A čo by sa dalo urobiť offline? SKOSI v rámci propagácie open source softvéru plánuje urobiť turnaj vo Wesnothe na Å¡kolách; možno aj založiť slovenský multiplayerový server. Počítačový krúžok, kde by sa učil jazyk WML a písali scenáre do hry? ĎalÅ¡ie nápady...? Ktoré slovenské inÅ¡titúcie by sme mohli využiť?

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Post by dreaming_one » October 11th, 2006, 4:17 pm

podla mna je divny napad posielat info o open-source hre do regionalnych novin :D ale proti gustu ziadny disputat, ked sa nieco podari tak daj vediet, ja si to za moje studenske kapesne kupim a pozrem :)

skor tie blogy a homepage su realnejsie...
ja to odporucam vsetkym mojim internetovym znamym :) ale vacsinou to je tak, ze ich to sice na chvilu nadchne, ale potom sa vratia spat k warcraftu :wink:

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Re: Wesnoth in Slovakia

Post by Lord_of_Wesnoth » October 11th, 2006, 8:03 pm

Viliam wrote:First, I am curious how many Slovak speaking players, or players living in Slovakia are here in forums. Second -- if I get a nonzero answer ;-) -- are there any ideas on how to promote Wesnoth in Slovakia / in Slovak language? Let's drop some ideas...
You do not feel single :P... Here, in Argentina, I am single totally… :roll: I have not seen other argentinians presents in Wesnoth's forums nor playing. :(

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Post by VS » October 11th, 2006, 8:52 pm

It's not much better here in Czech Rep. - forum has 13 users, and no one posted in some 3 months or so. (BTW, of these 13, 2 are translators (kind of supposed to be there anyway) and 2 never posted anything.) I guess this is because 1) people are not willing to try and look for forums, 2) language barrier (concerning this forum) and maybe also 3) game has excellent singleplayer mode, thus some do not take any interest in MP (like me).

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No, asi môžeme dať niekomu echo, že hra existuje, prípadne poslať krátke tlačové vyhlásenie. Komu?
Pozor, recenze herních magazínů můžou být docela dvojsečná zbraň. Kromě překládní Wesnothu dělám i nějaké drobnosti pro Simutrans. Hra se skládá ze dvou částí - platformově závislé binárky a "sady", což jsou vÅ¡echny ostatní věci ve hře (objekty, zvuk, překlady). Sady jsou různé, dvě "mainline" a několik různých dalších. Jednu dobu hra dosáhla období docela stabilních verzí a druhá "hlavní" sada doÅ¡la po roce a půl od vzniku do stadia, kdy se o ní mohlo bezpečně mluvit jako o druhé hlavní. Takže její maintainer (čech) obepsal nějaké herní servery, že je tu nová verze super hry atd. Výsledkem bylo, že vÅ¡echno někde - už si naÅ¡těstí nepamatuji kde - páni recenzenti úplně ztrhali, protože je například ani nenapadlo přečíst si přiložený dopis (jak se to instaluje?), prostě nic moc. Jediné, co mě napadá je že byli zvyklí recenzovat komerční 3D kropírny desítek mimozemských bestií za vydatné pomoci grafického akcelerátoru a tohle bylo nějak mimo jejich obzory.
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Post by Xandria » October 11th, 2006, 8:52 pm

Ahoj...
Mam moznost posunut recenziu sefredaktorovi GamesWebu, a pricinit sa svojou presvedcivostou o jej zverejnenie.
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Post by Xeron_ » October 12th, 2006, 6:23 am

Actually i am austrian, however brastilava is about 20 minutes by car from here :wink:

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Post by Viliam » October 12th, 2006, 2:06 pm

Lord_of_Wesnoth wrote:You do not feel single :P... Here, in Argentina, I am single totally… :roll: I have not seen other argentinians presents in Wesnoth's forums nor playing. :(
I just wanted to do a reality check. Maybe there are hundreds of Slovakians here, but they all write in English, so I never noticed. ;-) Well, maybe not hundreds...
dreaming_one wrote:podla mna je divny napad posielat info o open-source hre do regionalnych novin
Asi hej. ;-) Ledaze by sa zorganizovala na pocest verzie 1.2 nejaka miestna LAN party... o tom by malo zmysel poinformovat. Stalo by za pokus opytat sa miestnych majitelov PC herni -- ako som predvcerom zistil, jednu mam kusok od domu, tak vyskusam.

Na mojom blogu sa clanok samozrejme zjavi... uz ho mam napisany, len cakam na oficialne vyjdenie verzie 1.2.
VS wrote:Pozor, recenze herních magazínů můžou být docela dvojsečná zbraň. (...) Výsledkem bylo, že vÅ¡echno někde - už si naÅ¡těstí nepamatuji kde - páni recenzenti úplně ztrhali, protože je například ani nenapadlo přečíst si přiložený dopis (jak se to instaluje?), prostě nic moc.
Hm, riziko je vzdy. Ako sa hovori, aj negativna reklama je reklama. Myslim, ze windowsovsky installer je pomerne jednoduchy.
Xandria wrote:Mam moznost posunut recenziu sefredaktorovi GamesWebu, a pricinit sa svojou presvedcivostou o jej zverejnenie.
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Parada! Potom prosim pridaj linku na wiki.

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Post by Lord_of_Wesnoth » October 13th, 2006, 12:31 am

Viliam wrote:
Lord_of_Wesnoth wrote:You do not feel single :P... Here, in Argentina, I am single totally… :roll: I have not seen other argentinians presents in Wesnoth's forums nor playing. :(
I just wanted to do a reality check. Maybe there are hundreds of Slovakians here, but they all write in English, so I never noticed. ;-) Well, maybe not hundreds...
More difficult still to detect them if they do not identify the Location in the profile.

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Post by Dave » October 13th, 2006, 2:15 am

VS wrote:It's not much better here in Czech Rep.
Well, according to Google, Prague is the Wesnoth capital of the world: http://www.google.com/trends?q=wesnoth
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Post by Viliam » October 13th, 2006, 1:37 pm

Cool. Prague / Czech Rep is surely the #1 in the results... I just wonder how to interpret the remaining data:


In the list of regions, Slovakia is #2, though the differences against the following places are very small. However, neither does Slovak appear in the list of languages, nor is any Slovakian city in the list of cities. How could you explain this?

The first guess about languages is that many people in Slovakia use English OS or browser settings (not sure what does Google detect as "language"), and this is more frequent for IT people; and also Wesnoth is more popular among IT people. Another guess is that there are a few Hungarian speaking Wesnoth players in Slovakia -- this would also explain why Hungarian language has moved to #2.

The guess about cities is that while in other countries the Wesnoth players are concentrated in a few big cities, in Slovakia they are more evenly distributed. This guess is compatible with the previous "Hungarians in Slovakia" explanation, and IMHO not very compatible with "IT people" explanation (it may be just a prejudice, but I guess majority IT people live in Bratislava).

The problem is, these are all just wild guesses. And if I try to run some more detailed query (such as: cities in Slovakia), it prints me that "Your terms - wesnoth - do not have enough search volume to show graphs." :-(

EDIT: Of course, "playing Wesnoth" and "searching for Wesnoth in Google" are not the same thing...


By the way, it might be a good idea to launch a cs-sk Wesnoth multiplayer server...

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Post by VS » October 13th, 2006, 3:02 pm

Viliam wrote:EDIT: Of course, "playing Wesnoth" and "searching for Wesnoth in Google" are not the same thing...
Exactly. It may be also general lack of community or inability to form one... who knows
Viliam wrote:By the way, it might be a good idea to launch a cs-sk Wesnoth multiplayer server...
Good idea, but I don't know who would run it. I'd suggest you write to our translation mailing list, IIRC maintainer has a server, maybe he would be able to host.

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Post by Becephalus » October 14th, 2006, 5:48 pm

Of the people I regularly play with 2 are slovak and 5 are czech. LoW I have met an argentinian once on server, so there is at least one other.

Of course i would say on average wesnoth is 30% north american 50% random european and 10% other.

just the impression of one dirty capitalist pig-dog.
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Post by Mythological » October 14th, 2006, 7:08 pm

Becephalus wrote:Of course i would say on average wesnoth is 30% north american 50% random european and 10% other.
You should do your math better, Becephalus :P
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Post by Viliam » October 15th, 2006, 12:05 am

Mythological wrote:
Becephalus wrote:Of course i would say on average wesnoth is 30% north american 50% random european and 10% other.
You should do your math better, Becephalus :P
I guess he is trying to suggest that 10% of people do not play Wesnoth... I wonder what they do instead. ;-)

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Post by Xandria » November 21st, 2006, 8:19 pm

8) http://www.gamesweb.sk has recieved my review. They should post it soon.
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