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An idea that came to me in another thread... What's Wesnoth's calendar like?
We know, i think that the days are roughly analogous in length to ours, so i'll assume that they have 24 hours of roughly our length, divided into roughly the same time periods. But do they have 52 7-day weeks, 365 24-hour-
day years (again, we know they have summer and winter) 12 roughly 30-day months?
Also, on the note of the name of Wesnoth's planet, should Wesnoth's (or should that be Taera's) seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months and years (and any other relevant time periods i've forgotten) have different names?
We know, i think that the days are roughly analogous in length to ours, so i'll assume that they have 24 hours of roughly our length, divided into roughly the same time periods. But do they have 52 7-day weeks, 365 24-hour-
day years (again, we know they have summer and winter) 12 roughly 30-day months?
Also, on the note of the name of Wesnoth's planet, should Wesnoth's (or should that be Taera's) seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months and years (and any other relevant time periods i've forgotten) have different names?
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Interesting to note is that Wesnoth's planet ends up orbiting a dual sun system. That could have a lot of implications which physicians might refuse. But, creative licenses first, huh?
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Total calendrical nightmare. Though since IIRC (UTBS SPOILERS...) the second sun was created out of a piece of the planet, it would be more like a second moon than a second sun from a planetary physics perspective. Though not from a day-night cycle perspective obviously.
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As far as I know astrologers already found planets in double star systems. Normally this comes down to one star that far out in space that it no longer has a big effect on the inner zones, or both stars so close together, that they effectively become one, sometimes smaller, sometimes bigger, sun.Shadow Master wrote:Interesting to note is that Wesnoth's planet ends up orbiting a dual sun system. That could have a lot of implications which physicians might refuse. But, creative licenses first, huh?
I don't really think so. For me, the magi managed to force it to orbit the old sun (Naia) in a dual solar system manner, thus causing all the posterior chaos in Wesnoth, possibly including many volcanic eruptions and so. So probably the orbit radius of Taera was increased 130% - 180%, I think, and slowing its rotation rate, thus causing the short days and long days.
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Admittedly i've not actually PLAYED that far in UTBS, i got the info from Irrevenant posting it somewhere else...
But the trouble with it is that a sun is many thousands of times the mass of a planet, let alone a piece of planet lifted into the sky. I was under the impression that the second 'sun' was in orbit around the planet, and that it was its proximity causing excess heat and screwy tidal effects that caused the disruption.
Plus, making Taera's orbit larger would make the planet colder, not hotter... Also, a slower rotation rate would not cause short days and long days, it would just cause long ones. As hans says, in a real (as opposed to created) dual solar system, the second sun is either close enough to the first that the planets all orbit them both in a basically normal manner, or so far out as to basically be treated as another planet, gas-giant style.
But anyway, i wasn't actually talking about UTBS-Wesnoth, that's another matter entirely. I was talking about regular, HttT-era Wesnoth.
But the trouble with it is that a sun is many thousands of times the mass of a planet, let alone a piece of planet lifted into the sky. I was under the impression that the second 'sun' was in orbit around the planet, and that it was its proximity causing excess heat and screwy tidal effects that caused the disruption.
Plus, making Taera's orbit larger would make the planet colder, not hotter... Also, a slower rotation rate would not cause short days and long days, it would just cause long ones. As hans says, in a real (as opposed to created) dual solar system, the second sun is either close enough to the first that the planets all orbit them both in a basically normal manner, or so far out as to basically be treated as another planet, gas-giant style.
But anyway, i wasn't actually talking about UTBS-Wesnoth, that's another matter entirely. I was talking about regular, HttT-era Wesnoth.
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I always liked the idea of splitting months into thirty days each, with the five leftover ones becoming holidays in between seasons. Weeks are then ten days long in this arrangement.
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Except then you need 5 seasons...
Unless you have four season-break holidays and a midsummer or midwinter holiday.
Unless you have four season-break holidays and a midsummer or midwinter holiday.
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Added a working example. Was using 'seasons' as a general term in that context, you know.
There is also an interesting thirteen-month calendar.
There is also an interesting thirteen-month calendar.
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Interesting.
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I recomend making the year 360 days. This way, the planet orbits the sun and moves exactly one degree along its revolution per day. However, this is probably more geared tward a futureistic civilizaiton then something like Wesnoth. (just thought I'd throw it out there)
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=PI wrote:But anyway, i wasn't actually talking about UTBS-Wesnoth, that's another matter entirely. I was talking about regular, HttT-era Wesnoth.
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Axis tilt?
Also, is Wesnoth tilted? For all of the scenarios that mention seasons, none of them has had a scenario where it was deep in winter, and there was more night than daylight.
Don't go to Glowing Fish for advice, he will say both yes and no.