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troodon
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Akladians

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In "A new Order," you have to fight tons of Akladians all the time. My question is how do you beat them without suffering enormous casualties in every scenario?" The akladians are resistant to their own weapons, and they can easily demolish the Aragwaithi swordsmen.
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To answer your question in short: Bowman + good game play.

I'm also playing this campaign at the moment and half of my army consists of bowman. 1/4 spearman and the other 1/4 swordsman.

My tactic in detail:

1.) Watch out for good places to defend from, e.g. where you are in mountains and the enemy is forced to fight from grassland or even worse terrain.

2.) Put your spearman infront.

3.) Wait for them to attack.

4.) Put your bowman infront and counter attack.

5.) Heal wounded units.

6.) Use swordsman for aid, i.e. where you need support during the battle

7.) And don't forget about the leader - she is a quite powerfull unit with very good terrain modificators

That should do.
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troodon wrote:In "A new Order," you have to fight tons of Akladians all the time. My question is how do you beat them without suffering enormous casualties in every scenario?"
Generally speaking, I would say that to fight Akladian in 'A New Order' you have to pay attention to:
- Time of the day: the AI most of the time can recruit level 3 units that are real killer [14-5] at their best moment of the day. This is especially true against all your non-akladian units. Put Pikemen (i think these are huge) in front to hold (do not attack) until better times come.
- Healing: the Akladians receive roughly 1/2 of the damage (resistance around 50%) but still receives full healing. I see it as if the healing restore twice as many hits as it does for other units (:? is it clear ?)
- Wonderman and mages are good as holy and fire hit Akladians with full power.
- Whatever the tactics I use some scenario are really hard ()
troodon wrote:The akladians are resistant to their own weapons, and they can easily demolish the Aragwaithi swordsmen.
In the specific scenario where you have to fight Akaldians with Aragwaithi ("Hired Swords"), you must make sure:
- you can get 5 strong Akladians from Reme in "Separation" (nearly all level 3). Two for hiting with Lorin, two for taking hit (pikemen :)). If you do not have them, well ...
- the unit lines 'Akladian Homeguard' and 'Akladian Leader' are very similar. Do not recall too many units from these two lines.
- use the mountain to put your Aragwaithi on as they will receive less deadly Akladian hits
- weaken Akladians with Akaldians and kill them with Aragwaithi
- sometimes wait before giving the weaken Akladians the final blow, it could cost your healthy Aragwaithi precious HP that would turn him into a dead unit at the AI turn (AI notoriously prefers attacking weaken units)
- the AI of this scenario has a quite special (intentional, i think) behavior. Try to understand it and use it.
This experience will probably make you choose, as I did, more akladians and less Aragwaithi in the next scenarios. It is quite sad but ...
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Post by mephi »

im playing this campaign too. its seems to be unpossible in "hired swords" to kill both leaders. im totaly outnumbered. i usually manage to kill 1 leader and then get gilled by the other one...

and the weak mercenary leader is a problem too. he dies fast


and i found a bug. when i kill the blue leader and ask for his gold, i didnt get any. although there appears a message which sais i get 100 gold.
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mephi wrote:im playing this campaign too. its seems to be unpossible in "hired swords" to kill both leaders. im totaly outnumbered. i usually manage to kill 1 leader and then get gilled by the other one...
It is hard but not impossible. It is probably true that this scenario does not fit well with the initial statement that "this is an easy campaign".
mephi wrote:and the weak mercenary leader is a problem too. he dies fast
He is better than the standard Aragwaith but indeed not strong enough to be of much help.
mephi wrote:and i found a bug. when i kill the blue leader and ask for his gold, i didnt get any. although there appears a message which sais i get 100 gold.
Thanks for your bug report. I will check and fix it.
[edit=2]Bug fix in version 0.8.5 - available now on the campaign server[/edit]
viorc wrote:In the specific scenario where you have to fight Akaldians with Aragwaithi ("Hired Swords"), you must make sure:
- you can get 5 strong Akladians from Reme in "Separation" (nearly all level 3).
I take my word back probably 2 level 3 is already quite good :oops:

[edit]For those who really feel resourceless on this scenario, I attach hereunder a replay of mine, but do not spoil the fun of trying first :)[/edit]
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Post by Elvish_Pillager »

In that scenario, a nice tactic is to recruit multiple castles full of Aragwaith Archers, just archers. The other units get cut up in retaliation by Akladians, but the Archers don't take retaliation damage and deal almost as much of their own retaliation damage as the other units do.

Overall, though, I mainly used Akladians and green devils for fighting Akladians. When Mithrandil offers you an Elvish Shaman, take it, and level it into a Sorceress - it cuts through Akladians faster than any other unit at the same level. At the end of the campaign, I had a Sylph, and it had definitely been the most overall useful unit throughout.
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Spoiler:
I had reports that some scenarios are difficult, but when I reviewed the savegames it seems that they were difficult because the players have choosen the worse possible tactics :-D. Do not save-load-save-load. It will bring only frustration. Instead, try different tactics.
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You'd be better off creating a new "How to Play Akladians" thread than bumping a six-year-old topic with only six previous posts in it.
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Or including that information in the first post of the campaign’s main topic.
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artisticdude wrote:You'd be better off creating a new "How to Play Akladians" thread than bumping a six-year-old topic with only six previous posts in it.
In one forum once i was almost banned for trying to "gain rep" (really really) for creating new thread, when already old one exist. That's why here I first searched for anything related to Akladians within this forum. Seems no matter how hard I try, I will always upset someone :(

@shadowmaster,
In the scenario&campaign development forum there is a link about the campaign, with a link to this thread; I thought that scenario&campaign development forum exists for, well, development, while strategies, tactics, tricks and other advices should be posted into, well, a strategies&tips forum.
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