Missing characters mess up NR

[HomerJ]

Win XP
Wesnoth 1.6.0 (I doubt however that it has been fixed already)
Campaign Northern Rebirth
Difficulty Nightmare
Please kindly note that savegames will be attached later. [Edit: Done]


I have been playing through that campaign in a quite unusual way, sacrificing every loyal unit in the first scenario possible (as a challenge). These are Zlex, Camerin, Krash, the elvish druid, three loyal dwarves from the Pursuit, Stalrag and Anita (the elvish princess/sorceress). The following problems occur:

In Clearing the Mines, dialogue is messed up when the Ghouls appear, Camerins part is just missing, but Tallin responds.

In the Pursuit, you have to overcome two revenants with just Tallin and two auto-recalls (one higher lvl human, one lvl one dwarf (confirm?)), which can make it impossible, if the dwarf is a thunderer (two hex narrow flat terrain passage). This would be a instant where the campaign is over, just because you lost Camerin before the Pursuit. Imho this shouldn't be the case for any campaign, but I have no clever idea for a fix at hand.

In Introductions, if the elvish princess is killed, she still appears in the dialogue afterwards. [Edit: This is also true for the pre Get the Gold dialogue.]

Transition from Eastern Fortress to Get the Gold is odd because Hidel is mentioned for the first time, but the dialogue is the same as he would have been present on start of Eastern Fortress.
Note here that midway in Stolen Gold a Elvish Outrider popped up with some dialogue I have seen for the first time (something about the elvish princess having been treated rude, Tallin should take their (elves) money and leave alone) and for the first time I decided to end the scenario there without slaughtering the trolls (deep negative income, not in reach of keep to spend fresh money).

In Showdown, the Lich that takes the southern camp can not recruit and the villages are not flagged for him. The village issue however is a known and confirmed engine bug as it would also happen with elves present.
[Edit] The Ancient Lich seems to have the amount of gold that Krash would have if he was still alive. In for example Eastern Fortress, Krash is still mentioned as a side in the game overview (with gold and income), as well as in the victory screen.

I hope these observations will help in polishing this otherwise great campaign.


Greetz
HomerJ

[HomerJ]

Only three attachments allowed per post, so here is the savegame for Showdown. I wonder if Turuk can do something about this...

Edit: Added get the gold savegame.


Greetz
HomerJ

[Turuk]

Only three attachments allowed per post, so here is the savegame for Showdown. I wonder if Turuk can do something about this...

You rang?

Hmm, well normally I wouldn't consider it but since it's you asking...

It's now been upped to allow for 5 attachments. This should also help users who are looking to post multiple art sprites/images as well.

[HomerJ]

So, as you would imagine, dialog / plot wrap up after completing Showdown is equally messed up without Anita, at least at one point, somebody responds to something she didn't say (because she is gone).
One more thing, Hamel died around turn 16 or so and I was sooo relieved to see that it doesn't make you loose as I was already playing for 2 days (remember 30 minutes+ AI turns?). If that is intentional, good work! So Hamels part in the wrap up dialog is missing but he is still mentioned by the narration.
Oh yeah, and the victory narration (after the last orc warlord is killed) still mentions drakes.

I don't know how difficult it would be to clean up these things, a more convenient way would be to make at least Anita a leader (which makes you loose if she is killed).
I think Krash being optional is fine, he is not that much involved in dialog anyway.

I will attach a savegame of turn 30 which you can either use to finish up by yourself or debug n to the plot wrap up. [Edit: Or I could just attach the savegame... ]


I would be happy to answer any more specific questions.
Oh and btw, thanks Turuk, I was just thinking in the joining posts direction, but then was to lazy to do it myself.

Greetz
HomerJ

[Turuk]

Oh and btw, thanks Turuk, I was just thinking in the joining posts direction, but then was to lazy to do it myself.

Ah, right, I could have joined the text but it still would have been stuck at three attachments. Now you have up to five to go crazy with.