Playing with a cheater

[Pok]

Hey, im currently playing a game with a cheater (nick: glhfman). He can change damage and strikes of troops. Here his lancer has 32x3 dmg without charge.
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[Pentarctagon]

Probably that's from using the XP Mod modification?

[ChaosRider]

I see no cheats. His lancer has charge on his weapon.

[Ravana]

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[WarolKojtyla]

I played against him and don't remember seeing anything suspicious.

For some reason sometimes when you click on a charger it shows his damage with charge already included. Since a strong lancer during the day would have exactly 32x3 damage with the charge applied, I think that's what happened.

You can hover your mouse over the damage and it will show you base damage and whatever active bonuses it has.

I see no cheats. His lancer has charge on his weapon.

Did you not read his post? He said/thought the charge bonus isn't applied.

Probably that's from using the XP Mod modification?

To get that number without charge he would have to upgrade his damage like 10 times. Not only would it make 0 sense to upgrade a lancer this way, it would also mean this unit got 200+xp until turn 10. So that's clearly not the case.

[Straff]

@WarolKojtyla

Could you please remove your signature. Insulting well-earned forum members is not appropriate.

[ChaosRider]

I played against him and don't remember seeing anything suspicious.

For some reason sometimes when you click on a charger it shows his damage with charge already included. Since a strong lancer during the day would have exactly 32x3 damage with the charge applied, I think that's what happened.

You can hover your mouse over the damage and it will show you base damage and whatever active bonuses it has.

I see no cheats. His lancer has charge on his weapon.

Did you not read his post? He said/thought the charge bonus isn't applied.

Probably that's from using the XP Mod modification?

To get that number without charge he would have to upgrade his damage like 10 times. Not only would it make 0 sense to upgrade a lancer this way, it would also mean this unit got 200+xp until turn 10. So that's clearly not the case.

"Here his lancer has 32x3 dmg WITHOUT charge."

[momom2]

As you can see in the screenshot, the lancer does have charge; weapon damage is shown with modifiers when they are guaranteed to apply (e.g. when looking at an enemy unit with charge during enemy's turn).
You can tell in the screenshot that it is the enemy's turn due to the color of the units' orbs. It's hard to tell so I'm not sure, but it also looks like charge is written in white instead of greyed out, which would indicate that charge is active.

Probably this is just a mistake by Pok. If you provide a replay of the game, it will be much easier to get rid of any doubt, as the lancer dealing 64x3 dmg with charge or 32x3 in retaliation would be obvious.
If that didn't happen during the game, my recommendation to Pok is to not be too upset if some graphical things are weird when they don't impact gameplay, whatever the reason may be. If that did happen, then I'm making a mistake, and it will be quite obvious that further investigation is required.

[WarolKojtyla]

"Here his lancer has 32x3 dmg WITHOUT charge."

Yeah, he totally thought some lancers don't have charge and this one is one of them

[Ben24626]

As you can see in the screenshot, the lancer does have charge; weapon damage is shown with modifiers when they are guaranteed to apply (e.g. when looking at an enemy unit with charge during enemy's turn).
You can tell in the screenshot that it is the enemy's turn due to the color of the units' orbs. It's hard to tell so I'm not sure, but it also looks like charge is written in white instead of greyed out, which would indicate that charge is active.

Probably this is just a mistake by Pok. If you provide a replay of the game, it will be much easier to get rid of any doubt, as the lancer dealing 64x3 dmg with charge or 32x3 in retaliation would be obvious.
If that didn't happen during the game, my recommendation to Pok is to not be too upset if some graphical things are weird when they don't impact gameplay, whatever the reason may be. If that did happen, then I'm making a mistake, and it will be quite obvious that further investigation is required.

Now I finally know why sometimes dmg is displayed with charge included and sometimes without. Thank you momom2

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